One of the things that I notice about this forum is that topics that are 8051 are very well dealt with, any incorrect information is picked up and corrected. the further off the topic is the greater the likelyhood of wrong - even dangerous information standing unchallenged. As not all users of this forum are qualified to see these dangers it falls on the moderator to keep us on topic. (Telephones come to mind) on the topic of splitting the forum Please don't I read about 90ts and usualy learn something. Thanks for this great forum Terry