yup, i am definitely in favor of isp... its very good until implementation stage.

i (maybe others) still need parallel programmers since i still have loose ic's here with me. instead of just dumping them, why not make them useful, or simply play with them during spare time...

besides, i can't afford to buy a real production type of programmer (those that the manufacturer sells). in addition, such hardware are really inaccessible in my place.