??? 03/21/05 13:22 Read: times |
#90103 - price is not the factor, cost is Responding to: ???'s previous message |
The price I want to pay for such device, is max. US$200 (also important to mention, I thought...).
That price level may and may not be reasonable The issue is your production volume that will decice the cost. If you make a million widgets, the cost of the widget is extremely important, the cost of tools does not really matter. When I were involved with a huge volume project we spent more than $50.000 on tools and nobody blinked. At another company we anticipated a manufacture of about ten widgets and the tool cost importance was so that "presidential approval" was required for all tools. In my current environment (product a 2000/year, product b 10.000/year) the tool cost play a very small role. So why do I use the SILabs chips - speed and no other reason. Would I use them just for the avialability of the built in debugger at the price they carry - no. So, with the above said to emphasize that the SILabs were NOT chosen for the debugger some actual compares: The SILabs F12x tools $149 chip++ The Philips LPC93x tools (Ceibo) $700 Chip-- The 89x51Rx2/89c66x series tools (Ceibo) $1500 chip "neutral" The Ceibo tools are "clean" the SILabs tool has a lot of small "inconveniences" (in one release you could not change the value of a bit, in another, you could not scroll the xdata display) CtrlL for go to line is missing, but for all practical purposes does its job. This I would not use as a decision factor. The way to decide is ((cost of processor) * (number of widgets to make)) + (cost of tools) - (cost of dev time saved by tools) a personal opinion: One thing I have found is that integrating the debugger with the compiler makes more trouble than it is worth. Please note I say integrating not interfacing. As an example: when you integrate an accidential press of the spacebar while wanting to set a breakpoint brings up a message "recompile now". The so called IDEs are so wonderful in saving your sitting muscle that they save you when you so not want to be saved Erik |
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