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04/13/05 20:23
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#91519 - Yes, the top.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Hi Andy,

That's it exactly, well, almost, except that isn't it at all.

(And you thought I was confusing before!?!?)

Okay, seriously. Yes, the top of a pullup resistor normally ties to a positive supply, unless it's biasing a pnp transistor. In any case, I was trying to describe things such that they would relate to the schematic image in Karthik's mind.

Now in the case of the pullup resistor analogy that describes the internal circuitry of a µ-controller port pin, I described it as not being tied to a positive voltage until the µ-controller writes a 1 (a positive voltage) to that pin, thereby applying a bias voltage to the top of that pullup transfer-resistor. I know that this is just turning on the base of a transistor. But in either case the collector (the pin) becomes positive unless something external grounds it. In the end, though lacking technical correctness, this seems the simplest analogy to explain why the datasheet says to write a one to a pin in order to treat it as input.

List of 13 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
ports input to ouput            01/01/70 00:00      
   Fundamental questions            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not relevant            01/01/70 00:00      
   Input/Output            01/01/70 00:00      
      Top of pullup??            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, the top.            01/01/70 00:00      
            now you even confused me            01/01/70 00:00      
               A good representation of 8051 I/Os here            01/01/70 00:00      
            What do you think, Karthik?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Always an input, no matter how you treat            01/01/70 00:00      
               I concede            01/01/70 00:00      
            Pull down            01/01/70 00:00      
   I am clear now thanks to everybody            01/01/70 00:00      

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