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09/20/05 13:22
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#101262 - I've seen it all before!
Responding to: ???'s previous message
For the reasons that Erik and Andy state - using time and current for sensing motor position is fraught with problems - and we all repeat the same lesson! I've seen these techniques fail on two occasions: one was a garage door opener - any variation in the friction of the door would cause the system to fail and second was a release mechanism. Again, a bit of corrosion, more friction and the system becomes unreliable - just to save a dollar or two on some microswitches. The initial saving was undone manyfold.

It can be made to work beautifully in the workshop - 100% reliability, but put it out into the real world and watch it fail. Even the auto makers have learnt this lesson. Keep it simple - use a switch! Have the micro sense the current and have a timeout to protect the motor and to provide diagnostics by all means.

Mehdi - as for the current sense resistor - use ohms law to calculate the resistance needed to produce about 0.7V with the maximum current you expect. The 2051 has a comparator, you can use a silicon diode as the 0.7V reference - be aware that it changes at about 10mV/C. Even with the micro sensing the current, I would suggest you also put a fuse (slow blow) or a polyswitch - you can never trust the micro in an emergency.

You haven't mentioned how critical the operation of this valve is - if it fails what happens? Risk of explosion, property damage, death? This needs to be considered.


List of 21 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Sensing Stop Point of a DC Motor!            01/01/70 00:00      
   I doubt that, the time it takes a motor            01/01/70 00:00      
      More!            01/01/70 00:00      
         You can sense the stops by measuring the            01/01/70 00:00      
            I to V? But            01/01/70 00:00      
               SHUNT            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You missed the important point!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Listen to Erik & Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
   Another Approach!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not reliable            01/01/70 00:00      
      you don't get it, do you            01/01/70 00:00      
   Stop sensing for DC motor            01/01/70 00:00      
      Please Say Sensing stop ....Please            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sensing Stop -:)            01/01/70 00:00      
         no........            01/01/70 00:00      
      That is not the big risk            01/01/70 00:00      
         I've seen it all before!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks Russel And Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
      CYA            01/01/70 00:00      
         Why did the original driver fail?            01/01/70 00:00      
         It Works proper but..            01/01/70 00:00      

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