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12/04/05 02:37
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#104651 - Not at all !
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik said:
17 or 20,mV is still waaaay too small a hysteresis.. that littele is "usual noise".

Why are you telling this?? 20mV is not at all a too little hysteresis for a zero crossing detector! In order to hit the zero crossing correctly for both polarities, hysteresis should be as small as possible. I have successfully built zero crossing detectors with even much less hysteresis! Zero crossing detectors showing much larger hysteresis are useless, if the exact moment of zero crossing for both polarities is to be detected.

17/20mV will pick up if anyone in the neighborhood makes a "gaseous contribution"

And it's the job of layouter to prevent that there's a noise source in close neighbourhood doing this. By the help of correct grounding and filtering such a zero crossing detector will work perfectly!

By the way, the original circuit from National Semiconductors, which you will find here

http://cache.national.com/ds/LM/LM139.pdf

shows a hysteresis of even less than 7mV...

Kai

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TopicAuthorDate
LPC922 Comparator Interrupt Problems.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Vcc?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Vcc=3.0 to 3.3 Volts.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Possible causes            01/01/70 00:00      
            Noise could come from comparator itself            01/01/70 00:00      
               Re: Noise from Ground.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Filter            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  R21 is contaminated            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Hystresis is 1.7 mV            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It's 20mV!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           oops calculation error            01/01/70 00:00      
                              waaaay too small a hysteresis..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not at all !            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    there are (at least) 2 ways to skin this            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Extreme care??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          correct, but there has been umpteen post            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Please Suggest some filtering.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        100R plus 47µF            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Re: 100E + 47uF            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Like that...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Red LED.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Every red LED should work            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       also be aware            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          At 500µA...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Noisy ground?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: Possible Causes.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Mains Signalling?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Mains filtering            01/01/70 00:00      
                     mains filtering            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Very informative!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Problem Frequency.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Filtering will help!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Problem Solved.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nice to hear!            01/01/70 00:00      

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