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12/04/05 14:23
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#104662 - Mains filtering
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Russell said:
I have some basic RC filtering..

The problem with filtering is the introduce of phase shift. So, eihter only high frequency filtering can be used, with doesn't introduce relevant phase shift, or a very well known phase is introduced and subtracted by software.

You are totally right, to have a clean mains signal is important when using simple zero cross detectors. And it's obvious to have a mains filter if it's not.
High frequency noise can easily be removed by a simple symmetric mains pi-filter consisting of 100nF/250V~/X2 caps and 40µH/2A triac chokes, resulting in a corner frequency of about 80kHz.
At secondary side of transformer connecting 2.2nF in parallel to the red LED yields additional low pass filtering showing a corner frequency of about 14kHz without introducing relevant phase shift (delay).

..and some heavy filtering in the software by using a phase & frequency locked loop to cope with mains borne interference.

How do you handle this, so that wrong triggers will not block up the restauration algortihm?

Kai

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LPC922 Comparator Interrupt Problems.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Vcc?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Vcc=3.0 to 3.3 Volts.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Possible causes            01/01/70 00:00      
            Noise could come from comparator itself            01/01/70 00:00      
               Re: Noise from Ground.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Filter            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  R21 is contaminated            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Hystresis is 1.7 mV            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It's 20mV!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           oops calculation error            01/01/70 00:00      
                              waaaay too small a hysteresis..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not at all !            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    there are (at least) 2 ways to skin this            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Extreme care??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          correct, but there has been umpteen post            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Please Suggest some filtering.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        100R plus 47µF            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Re: 100E + 47uF            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Like that...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Red LED.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Every red LED should work            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       also be aware            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          At 500µA...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Noisy ground?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: Possible Causes.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Mains Signalling?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Mains filtering            01/01/70 00:00      
                     mains filtering            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Very informative!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Problem Frequency.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Filtering will help!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Problem Solved.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nice to hear!            01/01/70 00:00      

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