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03/10/06 19:28
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#111924 - Why?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
You said compatibility, I cannot even upgrade a design from the vanilla variety of 51 to Silabs or LPC9xx, because the supply changes. With PIC, I can even move to the DSP and keep the supply same. This is one reason why I moved from 51 to PIC for a keyboard manufacturer's design. The number of I/Os keep varying and Silabs are too costly in India, the LPC9xx limited in availability.

Philips did admit later that the early LPC9xx had a serial programming bug, and would need a parallel programmer to restore serial programmability. So I will take their word over your any day of the week and twice on Sundays, magic or otherwise.

Even the vanilla variety of Philips changed from 89C51UBPN, then BPN, with change in programming algo/ timing, after which my customers gave up. The 89S52 from Atmel again has a different algo/ timing.

I am sure you are not aware that the simulator for PIC has scripting language which is documented. You can add your own simulation and on the forum we share this info. Raisonance does not declare it and for Keil you need to know how to create DLL.
Code warrior from Motorola is the probably the best tool for 8 bit and free. So why do free tools stink?

It would be unethical of me to entice a dealer to stock a new or an odd chip if it is for students, or in house learning development. This where samples help, not price, availability.
And except for real large market like USA and few other countries, what applies to India, applies elsewhere.

Terms such as vomit and nausea are not the words to describe anybody's baby.

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TopicAuthorDate
help on pic microcontroller            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wrong Forum            01/01/70 00:00      
   Have you tried manufacturer's website?            01/01/70 00:00      
   A really hard task !            01/01/70 00:00      
      what??            01/01/70 00:00      
         Read modify write pitfall            01/01/70 00:00      
            doubt abt pic and 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
               lets put it this way            01/01/70 00:00      
               8051 for laziness            01/01/70 00:00      
                  my opinion            01/01/70 00:00      
                     freedom of choice?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that may be, but what I answered was a l            01/01/70 00:00      
                           In how many projects have you used PIC?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Ooooooh... This, in a 8051 forum?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Allow me to clarify.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Kalpak, from which perspective            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Both.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    AVR?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       why not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          why silabs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Free tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          long term marketing            01/01/70 00:00      
                              compatibility            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Since you are betting...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    all you say is irrelevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          that IS irrelevant why would you want to            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Misleading newbies            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                yes kalpak very true            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   The tragedy of Indian market            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                There are some, but who gives a hoot.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              PICs are wonderful!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              kalpak said >>>            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 One sale does not..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Rewrite? Not really!            01/01/70 00:00      
   '51-like instruction set PIC assembler            01/01/70 00:00      
   Mailing list for PIC            01/01/70 00:00      
   Assuming C            01/01/70 00:00      
      This very well could be why I never got            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sick as a parrot            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sadly            01/01/70 00:00      
               In this Universe I use C            01/01/70 00:00      
                  PIC C?            01/01/70 00:00      
            to PIC or not to PIC            01/01/70 00:00      
   hi            01/01/70 00:00      
   programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
   Today's lesson...            01/01/70 00:00      
      I know 8051 and PIC.            01/01/70 00:00      
         waht kinda computer it is?            01/01/70 00:00      
            RISC            01/01/70 00:00      
         Contradiction?!            01/01/70 00:00      
            more powerful            01/01/70 00:00      
               Bell Curve?            01/01/70 00:00      
   PIC Does Not Support External RAM.            01/01/70 00:00      
      SRAM overrated            01/01/70 00:00      
         C is not required            01/01/70 00:00      
      PIC18's support external RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
         Some PIC18 devices.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not True            01/01/70 00:00      
   What to use. Some translation issues.            01/01/70 00:00      
      that is where the contradicion occur            01/01/70 00:00      
   Funny thread            01/01/70 00:00      
      wikipedia says...            01/01/70 00:00      
   help me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Can you start a new thread, please?            01/01/70 00:00      
         and use a descriptive subject            01/01/70 00:00      

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