I am sorry Michael but I would have to disagree as well. I have worked at Franklin Software, helpped start Keil Software and now run American Raisonance all I can say is that over the last 11 years many programmers have converted to one of these compilers and except in a very few instances all of them converted to C as the language of choice. Either of these compilers will generate very tight code with extreamly good data allocation. They are both optimizing compilers that have efficient libraries and utilize efficient coding practices when the source is efficient.
As in all languages the term garbage in = garbage out still applies, however, it is generally easier to find competent C programmers than A51 programmers.

Bryan Whitton
American Raisonance
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Michael wrote:
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Hi,
I'm in complete disaccord with Andy. Probably, C is rather efficient in 166 or PIC18 or somewhere else but NEVER in 51! The internal architecture of 51 is so irregular that only assembler can gain effective code. Another myth is that writing in C is faster. It can be in certain cases, but never debugging in C is simpler. That is why mixing languages is a generally accepted practice. I think the question has already been discussed once on this forum some time ago?
Michael.