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01/17/05 01:00
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#85058 - Thicker cable
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Kalpak said:
If hum or noise or RFI is what you wish to eliminate, better use filters, more controlled and definitely more predictable AC behaviour.

Nice idea. But what, if signal bandwidth is 1kHz, how to filter out 50Hz hum then?

If the analog front end does not have high input resistamce then the current flow into it will cause a line voltage drop in the field wiring and transducer output amplifier.

The line voltage drop in the transducer amplifier is often cancelled by having every source impedance (protection purpose, etc.) included in the feedback path of transducer amplifier. Any such voltage drop will be eliminated by this technique, as I wrote earlier.
Against line voltage drop in field wiring using thicker cable is a better idea, than to increase load impedance. Especially if the cable is very long.

...in poorly designed mains operated transducer the capacitive coupling/leaky insulation can cause enough problems if not smoke/failure when connected to the control system.

Because of this I mentioned to use only Safety Class I or II systems. This standard forbidds poorly designed mains supplies!

Kai

List of 28 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Source Impedance            01/01/70 00:00      
   Re            01/01/70 00:00      
      Impedance measurement            01/01/70 00:00      
      Being more concrete            01/01/70 00:00      
         What about my Rogowski Coils.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Already answered in detail!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Re: ' Detailed Answer'            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Bridge            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What Bridge,            01/01/70 00:00      
                        bridge            01/01/70 00:00      
                           and ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Using an OPamp            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Using OpAmp            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Some disadvantages            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Correct formula            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Thanks Kai,            01/01/70 00:00      
                        LCR meters quite common            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Re: LCR Meter.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Resonant coupling...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sorry!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Go with the rule of Thumb            01/01/70 00:00      
      No more than about 10kOhm            01/01/70 00:00      
         Line drops            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thicker cable            01/01/70 00:00      
               Freq domain analysis            01/01/70 00:00      
   re: Source Impedance and driver types            01/01/70 00:00      
   universal solution            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks ....            01/01/70 00:00      

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