??? 08/18/05 06:27 Read: times Msg Score: +1 +1 Good Answer/Helpful |
#99617 - Timings Responding to: ???'s previous message |
hi,
I would suggest Little Joe to replace next code: movx @dptr,a ;store byte to destination movx a,@dptr ;readback byte from RAMwith this: movx @dptr,a ;store byte to destination clr a movc a,@a+dptr ;readback byte from RAM This comes from the fact that data memory access (via MOVX) and program memory fetch have different timings. MOVX to external memory uses /RD pin and its "/RD low to valid data in" tRLDV is 5*tCLCL-90 (so we have 5*1000/24-90 ~= 118ns) External program fetch uses /PSEN pin and its "/PSEN low to valid instruction in" tPLIV is 3*tCLCL-45 (so we have 3*1000/24-45 = 80ns) If we remember about two LS gates for /PSEN and /RD so we must add its propagation delay as well. For typical LS gate this time is about 9..15ns. We should use worst conditions so for two gates this time is 15+15=30ns. Now we have: MOVX requires 118-30=88ns RAM fetch requires 80-30=50ns RAM Now the question for Jan: do we assume that RAM select time via /CS is fast enough in your puzzle? If not then in original program: test with MOVX is passed but external fetches fail and provide corrupt data. As result MCU executes rubbish and there are may be instructions which clear P1 so both LEDs are lighted. To avoid this behaviour test routine should be modifyed as I have already shown (with read-back via MOVC). Regards, Oleg |
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