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12/08/05 16:25
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#104893 - LC-filter versus regulator
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Farshid said:
- If the MCU is not drawing more than 20mA could i use only a simple RC filter instead of the pi-filter ?
- For supplying the Analog Supply in some MCUs or DACs i always use a RC filter after routing a separate trace from near the output of regulator.Is it alright ?


I recall here again your schematic:



In circuit "H", a pi-filter containing a ferrite choke should really be used! This is not a question of supply current, to neglect it or not, but of interference the micro produces. A simple RC filter does not at all show as similar hugh dampening performance as a good LC-pi-filter offers.
Also, the ground connection of analog and digital ground should be done next to DAC. Separate analog and digital grounds as it's shown here:



(In this simplified schematic the filtering of digital section isn't shown!)

It's impossible only by the help of a LC-filter to filter out 100Hz ripple as properly as a voltage regulator does. Even putting two or more LC-filters in series will not help. You would need lots of hugh chokes to achieve the same performance as a simpe regulator yields.
So, if your analog section needs very low ripple on Vcc, then either you should use the 5V regulator to supply your analog circuit, or give it an own regulator.
Running analog circuitry with a non-regulated supply voltage isn't a good idea. Might be acceptable for some battery powered applications, but mains transformer powered circuits will mostly need a regulator.

Kai

List of 25 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Vcc Line Filtering            01/01/70 00:00      
   what are the resistors across the ferrit            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some suggestions            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE : Some suggestions            01/01/70 00:00      
         I still would like to know            01/01/70 00:00      
         LC-filter versus regulator            01/01/70 00:00      
      Excellent            01/01/70 00:00      
         That's really good, i was thinking that            01/01/70 00:00      
            I have never used any such amd never had            01/01/70 00:00      
               Filter position            01/01/70 00:00      
                  voltage drop for a ferrite at milliamps            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Line regulation            01/01/70 00:00      
                        sorry, that was tongue in cheek, of cour            01/01/70 00:00      
                           my bad            01/01/70 00:00      
                              if anyone should be sorry, that would be            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 SMD,RC            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    do you remember the math in a previous p            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Voltage Drop            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Murata better than others? No...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Paralleling is only a theoretical remedy            01/01/70 00:00      
                     my mistakes...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        How many filters...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Tada!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks Kai            01/01/70 00:00      

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