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01/10/07 02:50
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#130552 - 30% to 90%?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
HLL's save time. The early programmers are the ones who made the HLLs The had all the ASM the wanted. But they said this does not cut it. Keil on an 8052 does not bring you down to 30% overall. It will never be as fast as tweaked ASM. But how often does it need to be? They can be mixed so the ASM can be used as needed.

100% asm depends on having a whole lot of old stuff to grab from (not that HLLs do not). The time saved is big. Add in something like TCP/IP or floating point the HLL wins.
My first real project was a project done in asm with floating point. I converted it to C for practice. The costomer wanted to add something. My boss that the time used my code rather than spend another few weeks with ASM and floats.

The bigger the project the better HLLs look.
(with a PIC16 C always looks good)


List of 35 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Code transform from A51 -> C51 Keil            01/01/70 00:00      
   I don't think so, I'm afraid            01/01/70 00:00      
   there is NO WAY you can do that. C does not, in a            01/01/70 00:00      
      You are right I can't be sure            01/01/70 00:00      
         API            01/01/70 00:00      
            The problem is with the API development...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Welcome to the world of cross-platform development            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Use A51 compiled object files in SDCC...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Did you say what you mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Yes I was actualy meaning GENERATED...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  About inventing time in make...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Inventing            01/01/70 00:00      
                     well, since you hide your e-mail (the 8052 e-mail            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Please, please could you send it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Unix utilities for Windows            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SDCC paths            01/01/70 00:00      
               The 'C' preprocessor            01/01/70 00:00      
               if you use a sensible approach it is easy            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I don't know about 'easy'...            01/01/70 00:00      
         HLL's are for people who are too lazy ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            re: HLLs are for people            01/01/70 00:00      
               what\\\'s He-Man?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Def: He-Man            01/01/70 00:00      
            ยต-controllers are for people who are too lazy ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I don't want to discuss about HLL's effyciency            01/01/70 00:00      
               Oops            01/01/70 00:00      
                  dyslexics untie!            01/01/70 00:00      
            30% to 90%?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Neil, I kind of agree            01/01/70 00:00      
   You can be sure it does.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Code transform from A51 -> SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
      This is also a thing I missed..            01/01/70 00:00      
         similar concept to MAC routines, locking to binary            01/01/70 00:00      
   is it possible ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes            01/01/70 00:00      

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