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04/10/08 21:51
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#153132 - $0.10 may not sound like much
Responding to: ???'s previous message
What do you mean by code hungry and convoluted? Why would it matter whether the ISP application is 2K bytes or 2T bytes in size? It runs on the host machine. The object file being programmed is just that, namely, an object.
I referred to the actual uC.

I can see architctures/masks that would make including JTAG programmability a breeze and see some where the added cost would exceed $0.10.

$0.10 may not sound like much, but to the customers that make the semiconductor manufacturers stay alive by buying chips in the millions $0.10 is VERY significant.

My most used (non-uC) chip just got substituted because of a 'nominal' price increase.

Erik

PS Richard, I understand that you speak from your perspective and doubt that even $1.00 more for a uC would affect you, but the above is reality.

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TopicAuthorDate
programmer schematic for p89v51rd2            01/01/70 00:00      
   from phillips site            01/01/70 00:00      
      there is no schematics for that...            01/01/70 00:00      
   the idea behind ISP ....            01/01/70 00:00      
   actually, it's a good topic for discussion,            01/01/70 00:00      
      not an issue with his chip            01/01/70 00:00      
         that has been an ongoing problem            01/01/70 00:00      
            a horrendous thingy            01/01/70 00:00      
               It would, indeed ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The problem with ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     oming to think of it            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I fear you've missed my point            01/01/70 00:00      
                        if you want your customer to do software updates            01/01/70 00:00      
                           You really have missed my point!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              issues            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 What do you mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    $0.10 may not sound like much            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Once again, I think you're missing the point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          about missing the point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                you just keep at it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   You missed again, and on several levels            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      you are the one that is missing the point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         You just don't get it.            01/01/70 00:00      
   See the flashmagic manual            01/01/70 00:00      
      thnks            01/01/70 00:00      

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