Thats what I am using, I tried that and the one supplied by Phillips but I can not seem to connect to the device and try simple things like blank check etc, on the Phillips loader it always times out the operation I perform so i am assuming there is no responce from the chip hence I assumed that the ISP firmware has been erased from the chip, with flash magic at startup of flash magic it also fails to connect to the device and canot read the security bits as i assume this is the first check flashmagic perfoms