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11/27/04 22:44
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#82098 - Great Stuff !
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Hi Bruce,
FINALLY moved this thread into the regions we need to discuss !

Thanks for the tips.

I don't think his method was Ziegler-Nichols. AFAIK that works on non-sampled control loops, operated open loop. Parameters are selected from simple measurements of the time to reach saturated output ?

His limit cycle method hits the system with a square wave input, closed loop, with unity coefficients for PID. The square wave control signal was designed to kick the system within it linear range. Then he measured the output amplitude and phase and did some magic...I think he actually understood some of the stuff in Astrom and Wittenmark,"real time adaptive control"

The method I have used is to turn off the I and D terms, then increase the P until it starts to oscillate and add I until it stops again. Its crude but works 8 out of 10.

Steve

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help about pid            01/01/70 00:00      
   Floating point?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Keil floating-point performance            01/01/70 00:00      
   Search the forum            01/01/70 00:00      
   Floating Point Vs Mixed point            01/01/70 00:00      
      You mean Fixed Point            01/01/70 00:00      
         Mixed not Fixed            01/01/70 00:00      
   Warnings about Floating Point            01/01/70 00:00      
      Shortcuts            01/01/70 00:00      
         Implied aka Fixed point            01/01/70 00:00      
      Another Shortcut            01/01/70 00:00      
         Answering the question            01/01/70 00:00      
            Autotunning?            01/01/70 00:00      
            PID Tricks and Tuning            01/01/70 00:00      
               Great Stuff !            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I followed your idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Another couple tricks            01/01/70 00:00      
                     tests            01/01/70 00:00      
                        limit cycle tuning            01/01/70 00:00      
         PID to control a Peltier            01/01/70 00:00      
            An idea to try            01/01/70 00:00      
   very fast 20ms ???            01/01/70 00:00      
      20.000, not 2000.            01/01/70 00:00      
      very fast 20ms ???            01/01/70 00:00      
         in points...            01/01/70 00:00      

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