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11/27/04 23:59
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#82108 - Another couple tricks
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Steve,

I don't know what the term AFAIK means.

Haven't read Astrom, but I think I heard him speak in the early eighties about a simulation tool he'd developed. He's from Sweden isn't he?

About the square wave thing. Might he have been using a square to excite every mode in the loop? You know, looking for resonances?

In the early eighties it was required of me to measure the frequency response of a digital position loop. The only place to measure with the equipment available at the time was at a potentiometer used for position feedback. The solution was to break the wire between the wiper and the controller and sum in (series) a variable frequency, variable amplitude signal. Output was measured in the normal place, the potentiometer wiper. Since the test signal was applied at the feedback input upstream of a compensation filter in the feedback loop, the closed loop equations had to be manipulated a little bit to compute the expected open loop transfer characteristic. After that experience, the hardware and software guys took pains to provide a test signal input channel which could be mux'd to any point of the system for which test excitation was necessary - nearly everywhere!

Cheers,

Bruce

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      Keil floating-point performance            01/01/70 00:00      
   Search the forum            01/01/70 00:00      
   Floating Point Vs Mixed point            01/01/70 00:00      
      You mean Fixed Point            01/01/70 00:00      
         Mixed not Fixed            01/01/70 00:00      
   Warnings about Floating Point            01/01/70 00:00      
      Shortcuts            01/01/70 00:00      
         Implied aka Fixed point            01/01/70 00:00      
      Another Shortcut            01/01/70 00:00      
         Answering the question            01/01/70 00:00      
            Autotunning?            01/01/70 00:00      
            PID Tricks and Tuning            01/01/70 00:00      
               Great Stuff !            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I followed your idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Another couple tricks            01/01/70 00:00      
                     tests            01/01/70 00:00      
                        limit cycle tuning            01/01/70 00:00      
         PID to control a Peltier            01/01/70 00:00      
            An idea to try            01/01/70 00:00      
   very fast 20ms ???            01/01/70 00:00      
      20.000, not 2000.            01/01/70 00:00      
      very fast 20ms ???            01/01/70 00:00      
         in points...            01/01/70 00:00      

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