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08/06/05 12:49
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#98928 - Ground bounce!
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Abhishek said:
(i want to know how exacctly the "Kai Klass" should be pronounced)

"Kai" is my first name, "Klaas" is my surname. Call me by my first name, like friends do...


some times it resests some times not . i mean a Kind of lock is formed

Yes, that's typical for the DS1232!!!

From your layout, which I recall here again



it can clearly be seen, that you suffer from a typical ground bounce problem. Think about what the high frequency signal of oscillator does, when it reaches the DS1232: It charges the stray capacitance at input to ground and let a current flow back to the GND pin of micro. By this an unsane voltage drop due to the inductance of involved ground trace (the one from GND pin of DS1232 to GND pin of micro) develops, which shifts the potential of GND pin of DS1232 relative to Vcc. As consequence supply voltage of DS1232 undergoes fast changes all the time, which violates the performance of this chip. This is very well known and often reported in the past: The DS1232 does not like any high frequency ripple at his supply pins!!

The only remedy would be to use a solid ground plane. Whenever you route a high frequency signal, like the oscillator signal in your application, then you urgently need a solid ground plane! Otherwise you will always suffer from ground bounce.

Kai

List of 23 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Feeding the DS1232 Dog            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Exixsting Board            01/01/70 00:00      
         That makes mr REALLY curious, what reaso            01/01/70 00:00      
         Exixsting Board            01/01/70 00:00      
         no free ALE possible !            01/01/70 00:00      
            but it does not need to be if the purpos            01/01/70 00:00      
               the reason what you dont beleave...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  but ALE is "just" ALE, not a GPIO, pleas            01/01/70 00:00      
                     my plans            01/01/70 00:00      
   Use a buffer if using a XTAL            01/01/70 00:00      
      wave forms            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not trivial...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks Kai......            01/01/70 00:00      
         conclusion            01/01/70 00:00      
            What exactly goes wrong?            01/01/70 00:00      
               here is whats go wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ground bounce!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Another board is only solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                        3 or 4 Pin Supervisor is also a solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Pronouncing            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Prahlad and Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Communication Failure.            01/01/70 00:00      

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