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07/17/06 12:07
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#120369 - language, I hope
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik said:
With the enclosure connected to 'protection ground' the only RF you get in is the noise on the protection ground plus a wee bit from the enclosure to protection ground wire impedance.

Kai replied:
Remember, this thread is about ESD! What, if the enclosure 2 is hit by an ESD event?? Then, the enclosure will be thousands volts higher than the internal electronics!! Only the cap between signal ground and enclosure, or the direct connection of course, can then force the enclosure on the same potential as the internal electronics. Only then the enclosure can act as a shield.


With the enclusore grounded ("protection ground") you will, in the case of an ESD event get a short spike on the enclosure due to the inductance in the wire to protection ground. If you have a cap between the enclosure and signal ground, that will be a less resistant path then the inductance of the wire.

I have, In one instance, seen the cap you promote exploded from an ESD event, that hardly indicate that such a cap is beneficial to limit the effect of ESD penetration.

Now, let us agree that the 'science' of noise and ESD protection is quite fuzzy and many opinions exist.

I have seen the cap you promote suggested as a means of "providing some shielding when the enclosure (mistakenly) is not grounded".

Erik

List of 31 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
ESD Questions            01/01/70 00:00      
   Discharge model            01/01/70 00:00      
      150pF, +-15kV, 150Ohm            01/01/70 00:00      
         hmm            01/01/70 00:00      
   ESD            01/01/70 00:00      
   many ways and ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      more info            01/01/70 00:00      
         Is it a secret ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            using the F041            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some answers...            01/01/70 00:00      
      thanks!            01/01/70 00:00      
         What means \"quiet\" here...            01/01/70 00:00      
            thanks again            01/01/70 00:00      
   did you miss the FAQ            01/01/70 00:00      
      immunity levels            01/01/70 00:00      
      Do you like point 7, Erik??            01/01/70 00:00      
         I've only got 5 fingers            01/01/70 00:00      
   point 7 of the FAQ you mentioned            01/01/70 00:00      
      absolutely not, just the wire doing the job provid            01/01/70 00:00      
         I don\'t like it either!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Corrected, please read again            01/01/70 00:00      
            I would not do that            01/01/70 00:00      
               No connection, no shielding!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  with the enclosure connected to 'protection ground            01/01/70 00:00      
                     ???            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Ok, try this way            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I cannot believe that!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        language, I hope            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Come on, Erik, please...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I'm no expert, but            01/01/70 00:00      
   Have fun, Erik!            01/01/70 00:00      

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