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07/26/06 14:12
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 		 #121076 - indeed, but rarely needed
Responding to: ???'s previous message
These false readings, also called "ghosting", can be avoided by using additional diodes

If more than one switch is pressed, the diodes only have a purpose if multi key presses are legal. if multikey is not supported the effects of ghosting are - as hould be - a rejected reading.

Actually a 'simple' routine will find one of the keys, a 'full scan' routine will realize the multi key press.

Erik

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TopicAuthorDate
connecting a keypad . HOW?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Because...            01/01/70 00:00      
      How many times will this come up?            01/01/70 00:00      
         To be fair            01/01/70 00:00      
         Help him!            01/01/70 00:00      
            OK ... but just this once!            01/01/70 00:00      
   it's quite simple ... therein lies the beauty.            01/01/70 00:00      
      In minute detail            01/01/70 00:00      
         Credit goes to original author Michael Karas            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes - Credit to Michael Karas            01/01/70 00:00      
      Diodes prevent \"ghosting\"            01/01/70 00:00      
         indeed, but rarely needed            01/01/70 00:00      
            Think of a piano, where each key counts...            01/01/70 00:00      
               How often do you intend to use multiple keys?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There is the case of...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     True, but how often?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Agreed            01/01/70 00:00      
                        general input            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I agree, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
      a small catch            01/01/70 00:00      
         In this case, the pullups were external            01/01/70 00:00      
            HUH????            01/01/70 00:00      
               Sorry, I should have said you must not ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  just visualize            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It happens all the time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        current limits            01/01/70 00:00      
                           transistors open won't conduct            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Totally unsuited with push/pulls, unless...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 This is true, which is why one should READ first            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    there is no reason, but 'linear thinking' (outputs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Some encoders "see" pretty high impedances            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          cruel and unusual            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       No!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          OK, rephrase            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Ah, sorry!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Benefit of additional pull-ups            01/01/70 00:00      
   Disappearing Original Post!            01/01/70 00:00      
      that is not all that is missing!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Bug            01/01/70 00:00      
            Bugs            01/01/70 00:00      
               OOps            01/01/70 00:00      

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