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11/04/08 15:42
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#159645 - Lack of dominant bit state
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Correct. RS-485 is not as easy, because it doesn't have a dominant bit state.

This makes it harder to recover since a collision will almost certainly destroy both transmissions. Also, without a dominant bit state it isn't as easy to guarantee that two transmitters at each side of a very long cable will always be able to destroy the local reception for each other. The cable resistance may not represent enough load to give a destroyed bit at all points in the cable.

But the loopback function do help, and I think it should be used if the extra output pin can be spared (or alternatively if it is ok to hard-wire the receive enable signal).

Everytime you do manage to see a collision, you save a lot of time on the arbitration recovery compared to if you have to wait for a nack or a missing ack. And a missing ack may just as well represent a missing or broken node.

Nicest is when many symmetrical notes can auto-detect each other.

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TopicAuthorDate
Interfacing RS485 (SN75176) with AT89c51            01/01/70 00:00      
   Select your components with care            01/01/70 00:00      
   Compnents are irreplacable !!            01/01/70 00:00      
      What do you miss in the datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
      It is a simple chip            01/01/70 00:00      
   do not do rs485 without ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Here's the info for starting            01/01/70 00:00      
   Controlling the sn75176!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      use the \"industrial strangth\" LT1785 instead            01/01/70 00:00      
         Easy to control the RS-485 transeciever            01/01/70 00:00      
            this is one of the biggest mistakes in RS485            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not so much specific for RS-485            01/01/70 00:00      
               might be???            01/01/70 00:00      
                  These are NOT RS485            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Lack of dominant bit state            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that's exactly why on RS485...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Token-passing requires explicit or arbitrated mast            01/01/70 00:00      
                        the amazing thing is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           ... that it matter            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I am NOT talking about multiple masters, ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      follow the link            01/01/70 00:00      
         the two REAL 485 sources            01/01/70 00:00      
            Preview?            01/01/70 00:00      
               I do not know why            01/01/70 00:00      

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