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12/26/08 22:03
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#161145 - Be careful ... you only have one of these ... right?
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Simple description of bipolar transistors:

For switching behavior ... Pull the BASE toward the COLLECTOR to "turn it on." Pull the BASE toward the EMITTER to "turn it off."

As the base voltage is increased beyond the base-emitter junction's forward voltage, to be found in the transistor's datasheet, but generally on the order of ~0.68 volts, the transistor begins to conduct from collector to emitter. You'll be operating the transistor as a switch, i.e. the control voltage applied at the base will switch from nearly Vcc to nearly Gnd.

If you apply a voltage at the base when the transistor is conducting, the voltage between the base and the emitter remains more or less constant. As a result, you can calculate the emitter current, which is the sum of the base current and the collector current (pay attention to the sign!) using Ohms Law if you have a resistor at the emitter.

If you just use NPN transistors, driving the anodes will cost you the forward voltage from the supply. If you use NPN transistors with emitters grounded to drive the cathodes, the lowest voltage to which you can drive that cathode is one forward voltage above GND. The LED doesn't care about the voltage, but, rather is very concerned about the current you run through it. Too little, and, well, you won't see much light. Too much and, well, POOF! This holds, generically, whether the voltage is just barely enough to forward-bias the LED or whether it's quite high. That's why you have to be aware of the associated arithmetic. If you fuse one segment, well, the thing won't work any longer.

If you look at the supply voltage at which the original device from which you got the LED array came, determining its supply voltage and looking at any resistors used in conjunction, you can use that information as a "ball-park" guess as to how much current a segment can tolerate. That way, you can prevent destructive trials. Most LED's visible from across a dark room can tolerate between 10 and 20 mA. Some will tolerate quite a bit more for a short time (10 ms) but won't "like" that same current for more than 1 second. LED's generate a moderate amount of heat. With too much current, it becomes too much heat, and that will likely damage the LED. Be careful! Once you've figured out to what value you should limit the current to each segment, you can do that and rest assured you won't break anything. Remember, Ohm's Law is your friend.

The trick with LED's, in general, is to light a few segments at a time, but do so at a rate that will cause the human observer to see all the lighted segments as though they were constantly "on".

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Help with 4 digit LED 7 segment display            01/01/70 00:00      
   common cathode            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe it is a standard display            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's standard, but I can't find a spec sheet            01/01/70 00:00      
         an old-time part, perhaps?            01/01/70 00:00      
            The 8650 is a standard alarm clock IC            01/01/70 00:00      
               add up the forward voltages, adjust the resistors ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Diagram            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's all up to you ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Too soon to start worrying about voltage            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Be careful ... you only have one of these ... right?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     beware            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Interesting concept            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Don't think so            01/01/70 00:00      
                           make a FULL schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Of course            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Careful, now!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Diagram mis-labeled, sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
   Please consider that....            01/01/70 00:00      
      Lookup table            01/01/70 00:00      
         'Ohm" it out            01/01/70 00:00      
            I don't see how            01/01/70 00:00      
               then forget transistors            01/01/70 00:00      
         2-Anode 12-Cathode Drive Diagram            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
   It works like this....            01/01/70 00:00      
      Vbe, not Vce            01/01/70 00:00      
         that was probably I who did that ... and you're right            01/01/70 00:00      
            Well...            01/01/70 00:00      
               take a close look            01/01/70 00:00      
               I doubt it            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Possibly a radio section too            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Crystals            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That C### is a capacitor number, I think            01/01/70 00:00      
      How about this?            01/01/70 00:00      
         use PNP at the high side            01/01/70 00:00      
         ...And get rid of the extra resistor in the...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thanks. Time to test and draw            01/01/70 00:00      
               multimeter solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Similar to what I did            01/01/70 00:00      

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