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09/20/04 18:52
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#77741 - Alternative ISP software
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Thanks for your reply, Prahlad.

1. Pulling down D1 from printer port. Instead I will pull up with 10k.


If the cable is disconnected I'd want the reset pin to not be in a reset state, i.e. low. Shouldn't I pull it down to ground to avoid a reset when the cable is disconnected?

Obviously this circuit needs to be improved once the ISP is working and I'd have to incorporate a supervisor reset as well. But for now my only interest is in programming the part.

2. Using 74HCT573 [ Latch ] like a buffer with LE permanent High. I would use 74HCT541 instead.


Certainly. I don't have access to 541 right now hence my use of the 573. Living in Mexico makes finding the right parts a hassle.

3. Pull down resistor on pin 9 [ RESET ] of micro is missing. Unlike Philips Atmel micros don't have an internal pull down on reset. If you want In System Programming and not In Programmer Programming put a pull down resistor.


My thought was that if I'm pulling down D1 at the input to the latch then the output going to pin 9/RESET is already going to default to low if the cable isn't connected. Doesn't this eliminate the need for the pull-down resistor on pin 9?

Given below is link to an excellent ISP programming software and schematic. I would suggest you to modify your hardware a bit [ Interchange LPT pins ] to suit this software and check that there is no hardware problem atleast.


I stumbled on that ISP program/schematic but went with SP89 because it was open source and had a Linux version. I could try the above schematic but I'd like to avoid further hacking this parallel cable which is already a mess. As a last resort I can do this but I'd really prefer to figure out why the current design isn't working.

Thanks again for your feedback.

Regards,
Craig Steiner


List of 26 messages in thread
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AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
   RE: AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
      Alternative ISP software            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
   RE: AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
   RE: AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
   RE: AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
      Problem is on P1.6 (MISO)            01/01/70 00:00      
   RE: AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: AT89S8252 ISP via SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
         Problem solved            01/01/70 00:00      
            Oops, credited wrong person            01/01/70 00:00      
   Correcting the SP89 schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
      Proven-Product Syndrome strikes again            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: Correcting the SP89 schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: Correcting the SP89 schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: Correcting the SP89 schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: Correcting the SP89 schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
            RE: Correcting the SP89 schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
   Simplified and working schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: Simplified and working schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: Simplified and working schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
            RE: Simplified and working schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
               Working design            01/01/70 00:00      

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