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05/21/05 10:57
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#93688 - Quartzes, etch resist
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James said:
I was using the crystals from this manufacturer,...

Do you mean these quartzes?

http://www.raltron.com/products/..._45_51.pdf

They seem to be pretty good. Choose a HC-49/U package, these types show the lowest dampening.

... should I be using the clock oscillators instead. Are these what Kai referred to as built in pierce oscillators?

Using special external clock oscillator modules isn't necessary in very most cases, exotic applications excluded. What I meant by "built-in Pierce oscillator" is just the oscillator of the micro itself. They already contain a built-in oscillator, which is designed as "Pierce oscillator".

One further hint: Do not follow the recommendation about burden capacitors the manufacturer of quartz gives. This recommended burden capacitance only tells, what is recommended to exactly get the stamped-on frequency.
Follow more the recommendation of manufacturer of micro, because he designed the Pierce oscillator, and when he tells, that 27pF...33pF is a good choice, then this tells you, that the oscillator will work properly in terms of good start-up performance and good tolerance with high ambient temperature changes. In most cases burden capacitors recommended by manufacturer of crystal and manufacturer of micro will be identical anyway. But sometimes crystal manufacturer gives a rather broad range of burden capacitors to combine with the crystal, for instance 5...33pF. Then choosing 5pF will not make the job, if manufacturer of micro recommends 27...33pF!

As Steve already mentioned: Remove the etch resist very carefully! Take soft toilet-paper and remove the resist with acetone (like Steve already recommended) as long as you can see any resist colour on the paper. Then I often take (better took, because I do not fabricate PCBs by hand any more) a special rubber called 'senobloc' to make an oxide free surface. Directly afterwards I put the board into a tinning bath (must be a good one, otherwise solder problems come again).

Again: Remove the etch resist totally before soldering!!

Kai

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TopicAuthorDate
Temperature and 89C2051            01/01/70 00:00      
   Chip Grade?            01/01/70 00:00      
   A bit vague            01/01/70 00:00      
   oscillator?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Built-in Pierce oscillators ARE reliable            01/01/70 00:00      
   Freeze spray            01/01/70 00:00      
   Overheated parts, too hot soldering?            01/01/70 00:00      
   I have my doubts            01/01/70 00:00      
      What about this?            01/01/70 00:00      
         has happened            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: has happened            01/01/70 00:00      
               Microwave oven            01/01/70 00:00      
                  not microwave, but toaster oven            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks for replies            01/01/70 00:00      
   How about this            01/01/70 00:00      
      Wait a minute...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Improvements            01/01/70 00:00      
            resist            01/01/70 00:00      
      Quartzes, etch resist            01/01/70 00:00      
         Quartz Crystals            01/01/70 00:00      
         Quartz crystals            01/01/70 00:00      
      no problem            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe!            01/01/70 00:00      
   LED temperature rating?            01/01/70 00:00      

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