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08/07/05 22:28
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#98970 - it's perfectly safe...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
... to use this kind of stack manipulation, even if an interrupt breaks in. Think of it - you should be able to do what you want under current sp, as no other routine including interrupts should corrupt that area. This fact is heavily used on processors with not so restricted stack as the '51, where high level compilers place local variables onto stack and mannipulate them happily...

That its limited to a single register bank (not necessarily 0) was indirectly mentioned by Oleg and I think is no drawback in majority o programs.

I have mentioned this saying already (and I will be happy if somebody will tell me it's english equivalent, if there is any) - who's afraid of wolves should not go to forest. If one doesn't feel cofident enough shall not use this kind of constructions and stick down to "safe methods" - but in extreme siuations it's sometimes good to have some small "tricks" around, carefully crafted and used... Personally, I consider these as small pieces of art and enjoy them.

Jan Waclawek

List of 53 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Week puzzle            01/01/70 00:00      
   why is one a subroutine and another a ta            01/01/70 00:00      
      no RTOS            01/01/70 00:00      
   last there was discussion, in this an an            01/01/70 00:00      
      week            01/01/70 00:00      
   Last pushed in - first popped out            01/01/70 00:00      
      come in            01/01/70 00:00      
   Will it work?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes it will            01/01/70 00:00      
         Mmmmm?            01/01/70 00:00      
         And another thought            01/01/70 00:00      
            it's perfectly safe...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Still not convinced            01/01/70 00:00      
                  dangers            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Choices            01/01/70 00:00      
                        the same in real life            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Smart and Neat Code            01/01/70 00:00      
                              are you a math major? :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not a maths major            01/01/70 00:00      
                        yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                  what dangerous            01/01/70 00:00      
                     If misuse is chronic...            01/01/70 00:00      
   CALL + RET != JUMP            01/01/70 00:00      
      ?????????            01/01/70 00:00      
         oops Oleg Has the code to manage it sorr            01/01/70 00:00      
            return address            01/01/70 00:00      
      you got it!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks for the puzzle :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
   a question            01/01/70 00:00      
      why not            01/01/70 00:00      
         well            01/01/70 00:00      
            optimisation            01/01/70 00:00      
               I have seen that happen when the require            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it's the same than if you miss a push or            01/01/70 00:00      
         The Trick is:            01/01/70 00:00      
   the answer            01/01/70 00:00      
      you never answered            01/01/70 00:00      
         solid or intermittent problem            01/01/70 00:00      
            difference between solid or intermittent            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why Push!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      side effect            01/01/70 00:00      
         Another SAVE_CONTEXT            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sounds like a housekeeping nightmare            01/01/70 00:00      
               Sounds like a housekeeping nightmare            01/01/70 00:00      
               it IS a housekeeping nightmare            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Pay no attention            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Donald, if you took the time to read wha            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Reading difficulties            01/01/70 00:00      
                              sorry, used wrong word            01/01/70 00:00      
                     no problem with any post, just with stat            01/01/70 00:00      
            maybe because            01/01/70 00:00      
      eh?            01/01/70 00:00      

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