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04/27/07 11:48
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#138101 - whare is the uC?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
all you show is the crystals and the switch, if they are 'a mile' away from the uC then the switch is not your problem.

few days ago my colleague insisted that this board has desytroyed his timing and when he cut tracks and shorted them like a simple single crystal connection ,it worked correctlly

If you are lucky and happen to have a very forgiving uC then you may get by with a switch, but the problem with the switch etc is that the burden capacitance (the combination of the capacitor and the stray capacitance) can be anything and will be different based on the position of the switch. Some uC.crystal combinations are very critical, some are just critical re burden capacitance. If you absolutely have to have a switch, then do everythig you can to lay out the PCB so the stray capacitance is the same regardless of the switch position. Now, of course, if you end up with two crystals that require different burden capacitances you are screwed regardless.

while you may get what you want to 'work' the permanent, reliable, guaranteed solution will be an external oscillator and possibly a PLL.

Erik

List of 31 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
two crystals            01/01/70 00:00      
   Crystal connections            01/01/70 00:00      
      wires very very short            01/01/70 00:00      
         Youd be better off with a pair of DIY oscillators            01/01/70 00:00      
            why not use a derivative with a PLL?            01/01/70 00:00      
               What's a PPL?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Phase Locked Loop            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's not a very general sort of PLL            01/01/70 00:00      
                        apples and oranges            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Consider why one would want that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        PLL lock timing            01/01/70 00:00      
                           support droids didn't notice that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              .. err make that "jibe" : -)            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Atmel MCU with PLL?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        sometimes two wants do not jive            01/01/70 00:00      
                        sadly atmel 8051 derivatives dont            01/01/70 00:00      
            Am I right Richard?            01/01/70 00:00      
               What I meant ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Koosha, we need an answer            01/01/70 00:00      
      What is in my mind...            01/01/70 00:00      
         why a switch ? It will give you all kins of proble            01/01/70 00:00      
         Maybe use a jumper instead of a switch?            01/01/70 00:00      
            better, yes, as good as none no.            01/01/70 00:00      
            it's commonly used.            01/01/70 00:00      
               all the story!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Capacitor size            01/01/70 00:00      
                  whare is the uC?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The uC is in the ZIF socket            01/01/70 00:00      
                  not this type of switch, please            01/01/70 00:00      
                  consider ALL the components!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thank you!            01/01/70 00:00      

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