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04/27/07 16:56
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#138132 - consider ALL the components!
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Have a look at the comments in this thread,

http://www.8052.com/forum/read.phtml?id=79811

where Kai Klaas sheds some light on the behavior of these internal crystal oscillators.

I personally prefer external oscillators, built more or less as I've described, which is very forgiving and value-tolerant, over the internal oscillators, but it's not because the internal oscillators aren't good and reliable, but, rather, because I often require the flexibility that external oscillators provide. I frequently find myself wishing for a different system clock frequency because of a number of reasons, serial comm's frequency not least of these. With the digital circuit I suggested, you can switch system clock frequencies back and forth under control of the firmware as needed.

One reason I favor jumpers as opposed to switches is reflected in Jan's comment, among others. A pair of 3-terminal jumpers will remove the second crystal from the circuit, thereby requiring only that you know the characteristics of the jumpers and the crystal, in order to calculate the required cap values.

I'm sure you know that you must be aware of the characteristics of ALL the components you introduce into the oscillator circuit of your MCU. That includes the cirtuit board material and traces, the sockets, the switches, and the passives, that you attach to the oscillator.

It is, of course, your choice how any or few of these factors you consider.

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List of 31 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
two crystals            01/01/70 00:00      
   Crystal connections            01/01/70 00:00      
      wires very very short            01/01/70 00:00      
         Youd be better off with a pair of DIY oscillators            01/01/70 00:00      
            why not use a derivative with a PLL?            01/01/70 00:00      
               What's a PPL?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Phase Locked Loop            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's not a very general sort of PLL            01/01/70 00:00      
                        apples and oranges            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Consider why one would want that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        PLL lock timing            01/01/70 00:00      
                           support droids didn't notice that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              .. err make that "jibe" : -)            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Atmel MCU with PLL?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        sometimes two wants do not jive            01/01/70 00:00      
                        sadly atmel 8051 derivatives dont            01/01/70 00:00      
            Am I right Richard?            01/01/70 00:00      
               What I meant ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Koosha, we need an answer            01/01/70 00:00      
      What is in my mind...            01/01/70 00:00      
         why a switch ? It will give you all kins of proble            01/01/70 00:00      
         Maybe use a jumper instead of a switch?            01/01/70 00:00      
            better, yes, as good as none no.            01/01/70 00:00      
            it's commonly used.            01/01/70 00:00      
               all the story!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Capacitor size            01/01/70 00:00      
                  whare is the uC?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The uC is in the ZIF socket            01/01/70 00:00      
                  not this type of switch, please            01/01/70 00:00      
                  consider ALL the components!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thank you!            01/01/70 00:00      

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