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11/28/07 18:39
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#147525 - Sorry, but Erik is quintessentially right!
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jesus said:
Erik Malund, may I ask you how many bread boarded microcontroller systems have you assembled? My experience with quite a few bread boarded systems (I put together) is that they are quite robust, if assembled properly. As for the parasitic capacitances and inductances you mention, are you aware that most of the high speed stuff in modern microcontrollers occurs inside the microcontroller chip itself?

If you can’t do it, it doesn’t mean it can’t be done!

Jesus, maybe you can make a "microcontroller" work on a bread board, if you don't have any digital signals routed outside of microcontroller. But even then the power supply decoupling isn't adequate. But if you talk about "microcontroller systems", where a lot of digital stuff is connected to your microcontroller, then, dear Jesus, I must tell you, that a bread board design is entirely unsuited! It's the total lack of solid ground plane that matters. Today our digital boards must fullfill very restrictive standards, referring to emitted radiation for instance. And a complex digital microcontroller circuit on a bread board without solid ground plane will most heavily violate these standards!

Kai

List of 33 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
The Very Basics            01/01/70 00:00      
   What kind of experiments...            01/01/70 00:00      
      To begin I would...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Breadboard...            01/01/70 00:00      
            I figure...            01/01/70 00:00      
   I do realize that you are a student            01/01/70 00:00      
      MCB900 - (less) limited tools            01/01/70 00:00      
         same for the SILabs            01/01/70 00:00      
            and the offset?            01/01/70 00:00      
               I have no idea (do not use eval)            01/01/70 00:00      
   Where are you?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Profile edited            01/01/70 00:00      
   Basics            01/01/70 00:00      
      One other link            01/01/70 00:00      
   The schematic for the MCB900 is available            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
   simple LPC925 system            01/01/70 00:00      
      Don't omit the input cap!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Wow amazing post!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Nice post Jesus Calvino-Fraga            01/01/70 00:00      
      wrong??            01/01/70 00:00      
         Gettin' Started            01/01/70 00:00      
            misquote            01/01/70 00:00      
               Experience?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it is crap;            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Sorry, but Erik is quintessentially right!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Micros and breadboards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     'v'got any picture, please?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Pictures?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           pictures (too), please...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I understand.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That's the spirit!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        How Big?            01/01/70 00:00      

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