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01/21/08 20:53
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#149819 - I would not be so sure.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Neil Kurzman said:
I heard it was mean to solve the issue with the 8048's Every variant required a modified tool set to deal with the different sets of control registers. SO they made a block of "place control registers here" to avoid the same issue. It seems to a reasonable Idea in hind sight.


There was a time (70's and '80's) when I used the 8048 quite a bit, and I don't remember any control registers. They didn't have SFR space, so you couldn't "talk" directly to I/O as memory, nor did they have bit-addressable registers. I don't remember much about variants, either. There was an 8048, and 8049, with twice as much memory, of both code and data space, and an 8050, with twice again as much (4KB code, 128 bytes data). Intel made 'em, and National, AMD, Signetics, a couple of Japanese manufacturers, and probably others I can't remember if I ever knew about them, did too.

The i804x series had I/O instructions, and, in fact, a couple of special ones to deal with their 8243 "Port Expander" IC.

I'm persuaded that the SFR concept is one of the things that made the 805x so much more convenient than the 804x. The fact that it was purported (in the marketing literature) to be "object code compatible" with the 804x didn't influence me at all, as it wasn't that "compatible."

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True or False?            01/01/70 00:00      
   False.            01/01/70 00:00      
      I mean..            01/01/70 00:00      
         Definitely False!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yes , but has a fixed and fifferent location            01/01/70 00:00      
      Wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
         Wrong - gnorW            01/01/70 00:00      
            No, that is not helpful.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Twist of words            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Exactly - and the answer is, "False"!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Come on guys...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Ok I Quit            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some of SFRs could be treated like RAM cells...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Dodgy tricks            01/01/70 00:00      
         Of course!!            01/01/70 00:00      
   False ... SFR space is more of an I/O space            01/01/70 00:00      
      FSRs could be described as            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not sure how it would help here, though            01/01/70 00:00      
            well,            01/01/70 00:00      
               NOT            01/01/70 00:00      
         perhaps a sparsely populated bank ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            The 8048            01/01/70 00:00      
               a reasonable Idea in hindsight            01/01/70 00:00      
                  SFR paging            01/01/70 00:00      
                     examples?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SFRs mapped to Xdata exist(ed)            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Some examples            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Triscend did            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Richard did            01/01/70 00:00      
               I would not be so sure.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  From What I read            01/01/70 00:00      
                     careful now!            01/01/70 00:00      
   maybe...            01/01/70 00:00      
      looks like he's just lost interest            01/01/70 00:00      
         This Thread should be locked or closed            01/01/70 00:00      
            But you did!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
         ...it's false!            01/01/70 00:00      

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