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05/05/08 20:12
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#154448 - The high state is adequate for some things
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Consider a PNP darlington. Its drive drive requirement is probably more than what the 805x port can source, but it can certainly sink enough. If the PNP darlington is not very leaky, it should readily be in its "OFF" state when its base is pulled high by a very weak pullup.

The most common output high voltage at about 1.5 mA that I've seen recently is 2.4 volts, which should be adequate to turn a pnp darlington on, if its load can live with the < 1.5 amps that a darlington with a typical gain of 1000 would produce.

It's interesting that, while logic families have come and gone, with output stages that source and sink equal currents, the MCU's have not managed this. For over a decade, MCU's were described as capable of driving a darlington. They've not progressed beyond that.

The "gotcha" is that on reset, the outputs become high, even if not for long and not very "much." You must be aware of what happens when the port is not yet initialized to your desired state.

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P0 pull up resistors            01/01/70 00:00      
   ports structure            01/01/70 00:00      
      More Port 0 history            01/01/70 00:00      
   Of course, there is a reason for it...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Port 0 Pullups WHY???            01/01/70 00:00      
         P0 is multiplexed for input/output; P2 is not            01/01/70 00:00      
         This would all be perfectly obvious if only you\'d            01/01/70 00:00      
         See this thread            01/01/70 00:00      
   Scary Bible            01/01/70 00:00      
      Only In Some Cases....            01/01/70 00:00      
      Directly connecting the base will hardly work!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hardly is correct....            01/01/70 00:00      
         what about a darlington?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Will also turn off the weak pull-up...            01/01/70 00:00      
               The high state is adequate for some things            01/01/70 00:00      
                  OH            01/01/70 00:00      

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