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05/27/08 19:22
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 		 #155176 - I have yet to see any simulator, that
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Keil's 'C' doesn't have one, which is probably the reason Erik doesn't like simulators.
I have yet to see any simulator, that does not 'simulate'. You may enjoy simulated sex, but it is not the same as the real thing.

scheduled simulation of external inputs
I said "PLEASE do not reply with some bullshit about a simulator, a simulator is the most worthless tool in anybodys toolchest for any bug that is not 'static'

How are you going to simulate a truly random event without spending half your lifetime changing the 'schedule'

Developing a simulator to your specs so far has been beyond what the FPGA manufacturers (who REALLY 'need' and invest in simulation) have achieved. for an uC you can develop an ICE for a fraction of the cost of developing an even marginal simulator and the ICE (being 'real' will not 'lie' because of some programming error in the PC software.

Erik

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Free pascal compiler for 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
   Impressive!            01/01/70 00:00      
      PDF            01/01/70 00:00      
         Compatible            01/01/70 00:00      
            Open source ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               3rd?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  KSC            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I dropped the case...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Answers            01/01/70 00:00      
                        one problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                           IC$            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I could 'manage' without as well            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Why can't we just stick to the point?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Give us a break, Erik!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Give us a break, Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
                           many of the ICEs...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              if so ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Soon outnumber 'C'            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Debugging time            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I wholehardely agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                        not alone            01/01/70 00:00      
                        A good and complete simulator would be very useful            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I have yet to see any simulator, that            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Beware: self-defeating argument approaching...!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 you can't            01/01/70 00:00      
                           RE: A good and complete simulator            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Sad, but true            01/01/70 00:00      
   This is a wonderful effort ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      time for Turbo51            01/01/70 00:00      
         TURBO51            01/01/70 00:00      
            make that 4            01/01/70 00:00      
               inc(PascalUsers)            01/01/70 00:00      
   Cross platform            01/01/70 00:00      

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