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12/18/08 17:40
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#161033 - sleep, perchance to dream
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Richard Erlacher said:
I've long wondered about that ...

This problem occurs (here and everywhere else I've tried long transfers) with numerous devices, but only those capable of long-term transfers, since bursts are bursts. Disk drive transfers are, of course, burst-based, and if you don't have long strings of high-rate transfers, via USB, you may not see this. However, I've observed that activity is frequently paused for long periods on USB devices, actually including disks. I use a moveable 1 TB USB drive to save the content of my network-accessible storage, every day, and often observe that there's no USB activity for 20-90 seconds at a time. I've always assumed that Windows was the problem. My systems, with a couple of exceptions, however, are all HP, Compaq, Dell, and Gateway, commercially built and equipped boxes, with nothing internally added and with the standard retail software minus the many many "rubbishware" programs meticulously stripped off.

Can you shed any light on what could cause this sort of pause on the USB transfers?


I suspect this is not a USB problem. it's how modern hard disks are built.

They will go to "sleep" whenever possible, unless you figure out how to disable that feature. So sometimes when you want to do disk access, the disk has to wake up, then spin up, before you can read or write to it. This is not a USB issue, as I've noticed this with internal (on IDE or SATA) drives and FireWire drives too.

So if your network attached disk has not had any access "for a while" then it will go to sleep. Then when it is needed, it will wake up. The disk controllers and such are smart enough to hold off data transfer until the disk is ready.

-a

List of 26 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
About USB interfacing            01/01/70 00:00      
   SILabs - FTDI            01/01/70 00:00      
      F340            01/01/70 00:00      
   Like this            01/01/70 00:00      
   FTDI makes it pretty easy            01/01/70 00:00      
   re: About USB interface            01/01/70 00:00      
      Or the new FTDI FT2232H            01/01/70 00:00      
         Too bad it is so slow ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Why your pauses?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Indeed            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Driver model            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I see similar behavior under Fedora            01/01/70 00:00      
               It gets "curiouser and curiouser" ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  sleep, perchance to dream            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Does not sound like his problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I'm not so sure ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Powered how?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The drive is a Western Digital 1 TB "MyBook"            01/01/70 00:00      
            work it            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, times are changing.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  times            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Don't kill off SCSI too quickly            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It is not useful work to me ... I have done it, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Bits do not equal bytes            01/01/70 00:00      
               It's the FIFO, not the USB            01/01/70 00:00      
   added with another MCUs or special chips            01/01/70 00:00      

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