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02/24/10 07:56
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 		 #173511 - Opposite
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Richard Erlacher said:
I don't believe I've ever driven a car in which turning off the ignition wouldn't stop the engine, yet wouldn't lock the steering.

All those multiple-negatives are getting hard to follow!

AFAIR, Every car I've ever driven has had a position in which the ignition was off, but the steering was "free".

And, as noted, this is the advice that has been given out on national media over here in the light of the current Toyota "issues"
It's been given as general advice - not specific to Toyota:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8498257.stm



List of 62 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Car cruise Control            01/01/70 00:00      
   Cruise            01/01/70 00:00      
   I wouldn't            01/01/70 00:00      
      I agree...            01/01/70 00:00      
         It's a common homework problem for hardware guys ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            maybe not homework            01/01/70 00:00      
               it's part of several HDL short-courses            01/01/70 00:00      
      Toyota            01/01/70 00:00      
         years of experience            01/01/70 00:00      
            more likely            01/01/70 00:00      
               maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
   at embeeds.com            01/01/70 00:00      
      Doesn't make it any safer!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Terrifying experience            01/01/70 00:00      
            RE: kill the ignition            01/01/70 00:00      
               Steering lock            01/01/70 00:00      
                  RE: Steering lock            01/01/70 00:00      
                     about those runaways ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I think I heard about that.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Audi            01/01/70 00:00      
                        the clue            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I didn't own a TV in that part of the '80's ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              sell Toyota            01/01/70 00:00      
                     not locked until the key is removed            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Column Lock            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I've been in a lot of cars ... many rentals ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Opposite            01/01/70 00:00      
                              just to be clear            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Armchair pundits            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No, that's not what I meant            01/01/70 00:00      
                           4-position ignition switch            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It is on mine!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Safety issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It's just a cost issue.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          power steering and power brakes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Good things steering and brakes aren't "by wire".            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                RE: "by wire"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Accelerator "by-wire"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Failure Modes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Not really            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Brakes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                power braking doesn't stop immediately            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Not all            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Opposite            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       why a safety issue?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Obviously            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             quote under discussion            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                The point is...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Where is the fail-safe?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      That is one of Tyotas fixes            01/01/70 00:00      
            new brakes            01/01/70 00:00      
            Neutral            01/01/70 00:00      
               RE: Neutral            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I don't have one.            01/01/70 00:00      
      now imagine ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   What kind of car ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      past information about the OP            01/01/70 00:00      
         Oh NO NO NO..I do not want to get into this...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Oh, he would            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'm not so sure            01/01/70 00:00      
   A Cross Pigeon            01/01/70 00:00      

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