Bret,

I sent you some direct email on the Philips information.

My sale contact recommended a very nice rapid development system sold by PHYTEC.COM:

http://www.phytec.com/New%20Site/pC89C591.html

At $199 you get a FLASH 8051 with everything including CAN-bus and the software CD to support program downloads. Its higher than the other device and its certainly looks boundless to me.

But hold on...

http://www.phytec.com/New%20Site/pC89C51Rx2.html

for $179 you can get the same system with an RX2 micro. (faster - does a divide by 6 rather than divide by 12 if you enable that via sfr). I ca't believe they make it cheaper! Its a better micro but it doesn't require some of the additional programming circuitry of the old micro - the surprise is that they pass on the savings...

-Jay C. Box