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02/14/05 18:53
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#87420 - because
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The guy wants to build a tool. That's a cool thing! He'll learn something and enrich and further himself
... and some of the longest threads we have are about "I have not made Blinky yet but I want to make a programmer". Those that make programmers go for a very qualified task (making a programmer) without verification tool (oscilloscope) and experience (I have not made blinky yet).

It is not ONLY the availibility of ISP, it is the idea of making the first task a difficult one, that cause the "forget making a programmer, use ISP" posts.

The whole point is that - as percieved from this forum - no experienced member has attempted to make a programmer for the last 3 years, but a whole lot of beginners have made such an attempt.

Also, I whonder where you get the $25 for ISP chips from, a quick look at digikey show the 89s51 at $1.78

erik

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An 8051 programmer using 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
   ISP?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wellcome to the year 2005!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Fully described in Atmel App Note!            01/01/70 00:00      
   My old version:            01/01/70 00:00      
   why            01/01/70 00:00      
      a record?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Unjustified votes            01/01/70 00:00      
         Amusing...            01/01/70 00:00      
            ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Rob            01/01/70 00:00      
               substantially unchanged - not so            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yea... But...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     because            01/01/70 00:00      
                        True...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              get samples....            01/01/70 00:00      
                     ISP is easier than..            01/01/70 00:00      
                        and here too            01/01/70 00:00      
   Developing countries            01/01/70 00:00      
      that is sad, but if you give in...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not True - ICs are easily Avai in Mumb            01/01/70 00:00      

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