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02/19/05 16:34
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#87969 - Re: Better Control.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Dear Ian,

Thanks for your reply,
I think you really need a better control algorithm. What have now is a fairly simple first order system which is bound to have a static error the size of which depends primarily on the loop gain. To ensure the measured current more clasely equals the desired current you probably need to move to a second oder (PI) or third oder (PID) system. I think you will find info on coding these on other threads on this site.

My Controller system has input -> Thyristor Firing Angle and Output The Welding current.
The input is to be adjusted to get the desired output. And for this purpose the feedback coming from Rogogwski coil is used.

I am not convinced with idea of using a higher order system. Do I really need a PI or PID control?

I am not an expert in this matter but as a general understanding

I believe that 'I' control is needed when you have something cummulating in the system for example a water tank where in water coming in goes on cummulating or a boiler where heat coming in goes on cummulating. Or a motor where the shaft speed goes on increasing in response to applied current. But In my system once a firing cycle is over nothing from previous cycle remain for next cycle. Do I really need a 'PI' control isnt P alone enough?

Kindly correct me If I said something wrong. As I stated earlier I am not an expert in control engineering.

Regards,
Prahlad Purohit

List of 29 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
WEOT: Predicting thyristor firing angles            01/01/70 00:00      
   well..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: Well.            01/01/70 00:00      
         most likely            01/01/70 00:00      
   Graphs            01/01/70 00:00      
   Distortion of mains            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: Distortion of mains            01/01/70 00:00      
         Only a guess...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: Only a guess.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Intelligent machine?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Re: Intelligent Machine.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Some averaging is needed            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Re: Averaging.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           More Details New Method.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Could work, but have some averaging            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Precision Resistance welding?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Re: Precision Resistance welding?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Precision resistance welding            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    sounds like an app for multiprocessing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Re: Multiprocessing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          multitasking/multiprocessing            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Re: Averaging.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Better Control            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: Better Control.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Control System            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Difference in calculation & Actual Param            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Re:Diffrence in calculation and actual            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Single Cycle Welding            01/01/70 00:00      
                           RE: Differece In Cal & actual Parameters            01/01/70 00:00      

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