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09/16/06 13:52
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#124407 - Port modes
Responding to: ???'s previous message
If you don't use quasi-bidirectional port mode at the rows, you will need additional pull-ups in the range of 4k7...10k here, equally what you use to drive the columns. These pull-ups are also needed for the AND-gate you connect to the rows. In quasi-bidirectional port mode no additional pull-ups are needed, because internal ones are already provided.

The best way to drive a scanpad is to use quasi-bidirectional port mode, not only for the rows, but also for the columns.

Push-pull drivers at the columns should be avoided, because heavy short circuits can occur, when pressing more than one key at a time!

If you want to use (true) open drain outputs at the columns, then don't forget these obligatory pull-up resistors at each column of about 4k7...10k. Otherwise, potentials here can float to the nowhere's land causing internal port circuitry to oscillate.

But take care, (true) open drain outputs are very slowly and can cause trouble at your other port pins. To speed up open drains means to use very low pull-up resistors like 470R, but which is highly unsuited for a microcontroller project. So, if it doesn't hurt elsewhere in your circuit please use quasi-bidirectional port mode (if your Silabs micro allows).

Kai

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AND gate, INT0            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some thoughts            01/01/70 00:00      
      Should have stated..            01/01/70 00:00      
         Pullups            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'm a DUMMY            01/01/70 00:00      
   Port modes            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks, Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
      I was wrong again            01/01/70 00:00      
         are you too fast?            01/01/70 00:00      
            OK            01/01/70 00:00      
            does this look too fast?            01/01/70 00:00      
               depends on            01/01/70 00:00      
                  idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                     no            01/01/70 00:00      
                        but            01/01/70 00:00      
                           are you looking for \'pressed key high\'?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Detecting            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Ah, slightly different            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I tried to read what you posted            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          to clarify            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             overly complicated KISS            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                when..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             that will be all rows OR all columns plus one of t            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I'll try again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   got it, but            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Heavily unsuited!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      OR            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Still unsuited...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            I Think....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               and now you will make a better one and ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  If it's bad, toss it!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               No shame at all!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            well, any decent code will do the two steps            01/01/70 00:00      
               too fast?            01/01/70 00:00      
   why to the hell ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Before sending somebody to hell, read carefully!            01/01/70 00:00      
         leave idle by timer            01/01/70 00:00      
            debounce            01/01/70 00:00      
   Other method            01/01/70 00:00      
      Oh            01/01/70 00:00      
   a language lesson and some general co0mments            01/01/70 00:00      
      Don't be silly...            01/01/70 00:00      
         as I said            01/01/70 00:00      
            Erik, please!            01/01/70 00:00      
               I said nothing about an AND gate            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Have fun...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  well,            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No, it does not            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You are right, Mark            01/01/70 00:00      
                        if so, wht are there two symbols ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           So what?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              because some of us want to show the intention            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Intentions            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    chip and function            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Sorry, but this becomes more and more ridiculous            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          that a correct description makes the function            01/01/70 00:00      
      wait a minute...            01/01/70 00:00      
   I just recall            01/01/70 00:00      

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