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12/14/06 14:32
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#129454 - PC-scopes
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Erik said:
PS not a suggestion to the OP does anyone have any experience with a 100MHz+ version of these PC scopes that seems to abound these days?

I do. I have MCS-500 from Velleman and reported about it here

http://www.8052.com/forum/read.phtml?id=47122

These PC-scopes work, but it's no fun to work with them, because this mouse control stuff is really a handicap. So, for extensive daily work a "true" scope with real knobs is better.

Also, most of these PC-scopes suffer from considerable HF common mode noise, although the front end electronics is isolated from PC by optos in my case. In the 5mV range this common mode noise makes you think that your measured signal is noisy. You can easily estimate this common mode noise by clamping the hot pin of probe to the loction where the ground pin of probe connects to the signal ground. Then, theoretically, a zero signal should be displayed on screen, which is not in my case. This common mode noise only disappears, when the entire probe is disconnected from signal ground.
An experienced person can live with it, but nevertheless it's annoying. Even the rather expensive Pico-scopes shall suffer from common mode noise, by the way.

Kai

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Old Oscilloscopes from ebay            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yes, you can benefit from eBay            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks for the reply            01/01/70 00:00      
      the true "bitch" and a request            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
            case in point            01/01/70 00:00      
               Field repair            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not a matter of luck            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No car cigar jack in your bus?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Kai, you've got to be kidding            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Of course!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Probe Accessories            01/01/70 00:00      
            Good link!            01/01/70 00:00      
            absolutotally wonderful (I hope)            01/01/70 00:00      
               ... We'll see ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  i would never dream of taking advantage of            01/01/70 00:00      
   Worked for me            01/01/70 00:00      
   Those were the days            01/01/70 00:00      
      PC-scopes            01/01/70 00:00      
         For digital work that is not a scope, but a toy            01/01/70 00:00      
            I never said that I use it for digital work            01/01/70 00:00      
               did not say you did            01/01/70 00:00      
               Which One is better            01/01/70 00:00      
                  tough choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                     468            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re the 466            01/01/70 00:00      
                     There\'s a general principle involved            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Richard - I'm stunned - we agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                           menu-driven test instruments STINK!            01/01/70 00:00      
   .            01/01/70 00:00      

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