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12/06/07 19:26
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#147946 - pipedreams
Responding to: ???'s previous message
1) if your goal is to make a "Universal programmer" just for yourself, handling, say, 6 different chips, and you, by a miracle, manage to get hold of the algorithms for programming those, you can do it and with the time it takes vs the cost of a lowcost ready made programmer you will, hopefully, be able to make $0.01/hr. Assuming you, by a miracle, manage to get hold of the algorithms for programming those, I will almost bet it will be easier and cheaper to make 6 boards thaqn to attempt something 'universal'.

2) if your goal is to make a "Universal programmer" for sale to the unsuspecting public, then you will need to support at least 200 different chips from the onset and be ready for immediate response when a customer request support for a chip not in your library.

so, if 1) you will work and work and work and work some more to save less than $100 (cost of a lowcost ready made programmer less the cost of the components you need)

so, if 2) you will need to convince every uC and/or flash and/or EPROM and/or EEPROM manufacturer that you are a bona fide programmer manufacturer in order to obtain the parallel programming specs. Then you need to obtain samples of each and every device to test your programmer. In addition you need to be willing to work overnight to supply updated parameter files for your programmer every time a customer call you "I have chip xxx and need to program it, it is not in your library"

GIVE IT UP, GO ISP or be prepared for some REAL frustration.

Erik

PS 0f course, if you have raised $10M, hired a few people and started the Nimish parallel programmer company the above is moot. But in that case you have hired the wrong people or you would not have to ask what you have asked above.

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TopicAuthorDate
Universal programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
   with lots of circuitry            01/01/70 00:00      
   Programble hardware            01/01/70 00:00      
      possibly, but what good would that do you ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, but not a the required voltages and currents            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yep FPGA is involved            01/01/70 00:00      
   Recently discussed...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Falling at the first hurdle            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE:Falling at the first hurdle            01/01/70 00:00      
         communication            01/01/70 00:00      
         If you need to ask the question...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Oops - replied to wrong message.            01/01/70 00:00      
   This isn't so ... It's true only at the "low-end".            01/01/70 00:00      
      is the new algorithms on the web?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well, I got them indirectly from the www            01/01/70 00:00      
   pipedreams            01/01/70 00:00      
   Tube tester vs Universal programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
      that's totally crazy            01/01/70 00:00      
         Atmel ICSP or..            01/01/70 00:00      
            one more - these pop up every darn time            01/01/70 00:00      
               Universaly Blocked            01/01/70 00:00      
                  trying new things out?.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Think a bit Deeper            01/01/70 00:00      
                        staying on the subject            01/01/70 00:00      
         some words about semantics            01/01/70 00:00      
            what is a "KANDA cable"            01/01/70 00:00      
               KANDA cable is            01/01/70 00:00      
   Does it intended...            01/01/70 00:00      
      consider the device's role            01/01/70 00:00      
      what a surprise            01/01/70 00:00      
   bravo for ISP            01/01/70 00:00      
   You have to narrow the scope            01/01/70 00:00      
      Conclusions            01/01/70 00:00      
         just adding to the complexity            01/01/70 00:00      
         it looked as though he wants a production tool            01/01/70 00:00      

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