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01/07/05 11:39
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#84511 - Are you sure?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik said:
For AC load only a very slight possibility since part of the quaint Antiquity of this "design" is that it uses an old 12 clocker at 11 MHz ( ~1MHz cycle) you should not have a problem, with such a processor you can, in most cases, live with total prop delays in the half microsecond range.

Are you sure??

For instance, tWHQX (Data hold after !WR) is tclcl-25nsec (min.) for an AT89S52, which is about 70nsec at 11MHz clock frequency. If you have a design with an extended data bus and if you combine !WR with additional signals by the help of 74HCMOS gates, then you must take care about the timing issue very well.
Proper timing analysis is always necessary, even if you use 'antiquities'...

Also: Just mixed designs using analog and digital signals can highly benefit from using a slow anitquity, instead of your 50MHz clocker! These fast beasts can bring the hell onto your board!!

But you are correct, of course: Using a separate EPROM while having today these fantastic FLASH-micros is a sin and even for studying purpose noone should choose such an oldfashioned solution.

Kai

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Worst case design            01/01/70 00:00      
   bible time            01/01/70 00:00      
   What about an example?            01/01/70 00:00      
   loading analysis            01/01/70 00:00      
      Laoding Analysis            01/01/70 00:00      
         AC "loading"            01/01/70 00:00      
            AC analysis            01/01/70 00:00      
               AC loading            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Andy forgot            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not so much            01/01/70 00:00      
               How to post a schematic - Tutorial            01/01/70 00:00      
   Analysis...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
         ?            01/01/70 00:00      
   new url            01/01/70 00:00      
      Link            01/01/70 00:00      
   Third time lucky            01/01/70 00:00      
      the link            01/01/70 00:00      
         Oh dear...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Clock Freq.            01/01/70 00:00      
               old school            01/01/70 00:00      
                  ADC            01/01/70 00:00      
                     1997            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Design Practices            01/01/70 00:00      
                     for the sake of it            01/01/70 00:00      
                     living in the past            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Old Design practice            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Call My Bluff?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        true meaning of "Worst-Case"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Are you sure?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Business spec ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        UniS?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Naw            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Ya            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Try this            01/01/70 00:00      
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