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04/04/05 12:11
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#90949 - why not the simple solution: NoTouch
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I have some chips of this type that I have blowed someway the boot vector. The fact that Philips doesn't provide any information about parallel programming to the end user/developer is depressive.

If you install NoTouch losing the boot vector is not a problem so why worry about making a parallel programmer. The fact that so many know about NoTouch and do not install it and then, when it is too late, can not program their chips is depressing.

1) Other manufacturers (e.g. Atmel) have wisened up and dropped programming info from the data sheets for new chips. So no need to target just Philips. Someone, a while ago, posted a NoTouch for Atmel.
2) How on earth are you going to verify the endurance of programming realized by trial and error. The very reason for not including programming info is the endurance problems associated with kitchen table programmers..

Erik

NoTouch can be found at my user page.


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Philips p89c51RDx Programmer project            01/01/70 00:00      
   Useful Project            01/01/70 00:00      
   Useful Project. Count me in            01/01/70 00:00      
      lets try something....            01/01/70 00:00      
         No Go            01/01/70 00:00      
            see my "other things.."            01/01/70 00:00      
               bootrom code            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Jan, please email me at .....            01/01/70 00:00      
                  BootRom Code            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Boot ROM address range            01/01/70 00:00      
                        2kb boot code            01/01/70 00:00      
                           B oot from External Memory            01/01/70 00:00      
                              !EA/Vpp            01/01/70 00:00      
   why not the simple solution: NoTouch            01/01/70 00:00      
      Too Late            01/01/70 00:00      
         Try this, it has worked for some            01/01/70 00:00      
   Philips's angwer            01/01/70 00:00      
      the most often changed            01/01/70 00:00      
      an RX2 'fix' from the horse's mouth...            01/01/70 00:00      
         neat            01/01/70 00:00      
         Nice!            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'll look tomorrow...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I take it back            01/01/70 00:00      
                  you're NOT as stupid as you think.......            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not possible !!!            01/01/70 00:00      
            respectfully disagree...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Re: respectfully disagree...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I didcussed it above earlier today...            01/01/70 00:00      
               difference Philips.vs.Atmel            01/01/70 00:00      
                  other things...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     lets make the ckt even simpler...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     maybe ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        using the EA pin            01/01/70 00:00      
               which bits            01/01/70 00:00      

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