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04/04/05 19:02
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#90990 - the most often changed
Responding to: ???'s previous message
"The 89C51Rx2 family is fully compatible with the 87C51."
Does this means that it can be programmed in 87c51 parallel programmer ???

The most often changed about a given derivative is the programming algorithm and that, as far as I know, has NEVER been a reason to declare a chip "not compatible". For instance for "plain" 87C51 Atmel., Philips and Intel are not just "compatible" but IDENTICAL, but still require different programming algorithms.

so your question has 4 answers (in sequence of lileyhood)
1) no (one is fuses, the other is flash)
2) no and will burn the chip
3) yes, but endurance will suffer
4) yes

If you are willing to take a chance in 1) 2) or 3) go ahead, I would not.

Anyhow, since the 87C51 never had a boot vector, how will you go about that.

Erik

a comment:
Like many other organizations, Philips first line answers are rarely "very intelligent", you need to "punch through" that line to get the full and unadulterated answer. I'll try to see if a contact will chime in here.

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TopicAuthorDate
Philips p89c51RDx Programmer project            01/01/70 00:00      
   Useful Project            01/01/70 00:00      
   Useful Project. Count me in            01/01/70 00:00      
      lets try something....            01/01/70 00:00      
         No Go            01/01/70 00:00      
            see my "other things.."            01/01/70 00:00      
               bootrom code            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Jan, please email me at .....            01/01/70 00:00      
                  BootRom Code            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Boot ROM address range            01/01/70 00:00      
                        2kb boot code            01/01/70 00:00      
                           B oot from External Memory            01/01/70 00:00      
                              !EA/Vpp            01/01/70 00:00      
   why not the simple solution: NoTouch            01/01/70 00:00      
      Too Late            01/01/70 00:00      
         Try this, it has worked for some            01/01/70 00:00      
   Philips's angwer            01/01/70 00:00      
      the most often changed            01/01/70 00:00      
      an RX2 'fix' from the horse's mouth...            01/01/70 00:00      
         neat            01/01/70 00:00      
         Nice!            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'll look tomorrow...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I take it back            01/01/70 00:00      
                  you're NOT as stupid as you think.......            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not possible !!!            01/01/70 00:00      
            respectfully disagree...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Re: respectfully disagree...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I didcussed it above earlier today...            01/01/70 00:00      
               difference Philips.vs.Atmel            01/01/70 00:00      
                  other things...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     lets make the ckt even simpler...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     maybe ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        using the EA pin            01/01/70 00:00      
               which bits            01/01/70 00:00      

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