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05/27/05 09:07
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#93966 - dirty hack...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
... but viable.
Instead of RC I would use a piece of logic (GAL or CPLD) based on a counter clocked by XTAL and reset(*) by ALE; if it would count up to 6 (= ALE off) it would set the output; ALE would reset it.

I have read a hack on PSEN, too (http://www.hw.cz/design/51_hw/psen_33.html, but in czech language). Upon doing a MOVC from outside the internal FLASH area (=> works on <64kB FLASH derivatives ONLY) it generates a single pulse on the PSEN pin, so a divide-by-2 clocked from PSEN can be used to have an extra output (reset to RST). The caveat is, that during PSEN the P0 and P2 pins are driven hard to the address (both 1 and 0), so they cannot be used as simple outputs any more; and also using them as inputs is cumbersome...

So these are 2 extra outputs, but is it worth the complications...

Jan Waclawek

(*) OT: english language question: reset, or resetted? Thanks.

List of 30 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Free PSEN/EA            01/01/70 00:00      
   Need 2 extra I/O?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Break            01/01/70 00:00      
      Just like disabling ALE            01/01/70 00:00      
         EA is a problem; PSEN - I don't know            01/01/70 00:00      
            Undocumented features            01/01/70 00:00      
               this is a weak argument            01/01/70 00:00      
            PSEN            01/01/70 00:00      
               PSEN II.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  PSEN III.            01/01/70 00:00      
            More I/O            01/01/70 00:00      
               I don't think that was Payam's point            01/01/70 00:00      
   the never ending request            01/01/70 00:00      
      ;-)            01/01/70 00:00      
   You can use ALE            01/01/70 00:00      
      Filter?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I assume ..            01/01/70 00:00      
            dirty hack...            01/01/70 00:00      
               why hack            01/01/70 00:00      
                  extra IO            01/01/70 00:00      
                     design and nothing else            01/01/70 00:00      
                        $1 in parts is not equal to $1 cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Oh yes, I AM still designing.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           stop whining            01/01/70 00:00      
                              it's just an illustration...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 where does market size come in            01/01/70 00:00      
         that was said FITER not the FILTER            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sorry was a mistake it sohld be FILTER            01/01/70 00:00      
      Filter?            01/01/70 00:00      
   The illusion            01/01/70 00:00      

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