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10/07/05 10:37
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#102069 - that's too bad
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Prahlad J. Purohit said:
There is no way to protect your code. If one has decided to steal it one way or other he will do it.


How true.

This is the permanent thief-guard game. The only question is, whether it's wort. If the cost of "code recovery" is higher than the gain from having it, nobody will do it. Search the net - you might find out how much is a standard lockbit protection on standard mcus worth in $s...

The trouble is that many of the standard mcus'lock scheme appears to be easily overcomable by non-invasive methods - applying non-standard electric signals and heat and light... And that's cheap.

Better protection can be achieved only by a combination of methods and those methods should use a variety of principles.

Prahlad J. Purohit said:
Anyways the safest way to spoil a port pin in my opinion is Break apart the pin


On no; this protection is worth maybe 10 minutes of work (how much would you charge for this - $10?); somebody who is able overcome the lockbits would certainly repair a torn-off pin easily. So it is not even worth doing it - it would repel somebody who would only try to put the chip into a standard device programmer, but that one would be equally deterred by the standard lockbit protection.

But a mechanical protection is not a bad idea as it has possibly less impact on the electrical performance of the circuit. Maybe a hole carefully drilled in the vicinity of the centre of package, so that it cuts the bonding wire of the required port pin, could be used, well cleaned and filled with resin - that would be certainly more complicated to reconnect a bonding wire of 20um diameter than the wireframe.

Jan Waclawek


List of 35 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
spoiling p0.0 pin            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yeah right            01/01/70 00:00      
   Spoil?            01/01/70 00:00      
      spoilng pin p0.0            01/01/70 00:00      
         I heavily doubt this            01/01/70 00:00      
            i have seen            01/01/70 00:00      
               Why are you sure, that it's the same??            01/01/70 00:00      
                  how to be sure of the copy            01/01/70 00:00      
   hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
      several ways?            01/01/70 00:00      
         OH NO            01/01/70 00:00      
            how else?            01/01/70 00:00      
               If you want to go to Timbuktu and there            01/01/70 00:00      
                  always a way - but how costly            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Those are "design to" specifications, I            01/01/70 00:00      
   really strange approach !            01/01/70 00:00      
      unlocking            01/01/70 00:00      
      Excellent! Problem solved!!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Safe spoiling.            01/01/70 00:00      
      that's too bad            01/01/70 00:00      
      that's the crux            01/01/70 00:00      
         the deriavative is 89c55wd            01/01/70 00:00      
   anyway...            01/01/70 00:00      
      did you mean DS500x?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Everything they make, we can break!            01/01/70 00:00      
      hardware???            01/01/70 00:00      
   erk..            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maxim Appnote            01/01/70 00:00      
      even more erk            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yep            01/01/70 00:00      
         encryption...no go            01/01/70 00:00      
            once again            01/01/70 00:00      
               But Jez            01/01/70 00:00      
   If you have a display, let the power on            01/01/70 00:00      
   Milling and Epoxy Mold            01/01/70 00:00      

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