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02/21/07 14:43
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#133431 - prevent problems
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Hendryawan said:
Dear Patrick,
I need some input from everybody about my experiment.
Last week I made four pcs small project. One of them have problem. So I do experiment. I check every equipment with relay to shorted in power supply line. The result only one hung. I change the uC, test again and the result circuit not hung.
any comment?
thank


Experimenting is great, but what you should have done, is modify your circuit to protect your microcontroller from failing. Not test if it would happen with every microcontroller... That proves very little in my humble opinion...

Make a fail-safe design that prevents evil things from happening. There is little use in "torturing" various microcontrollers to only prove that some can stand it and others can't, whether by mere coincidence or variability in the production process...

Not to speak of the fact that manually flicking a switch as fast as possible is not really an input parameter to an experiment.

regards

Patrick


List of 51 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
How its happen?            01/01/70 00:00      
   correction            01/01/70 00:00      
   my 2 cents            01/01/70 00:00      
   What is exactly RLY fuction?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Effect of relay            01/01/70 00:00      
         Isn't it called EMI?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sure - radiated and conducted            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ok, thought so :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Maybe it's a test?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not very kind to operator :)            01/01/70 00:00      
         A diode helps.            01/01/70 00:00      
            But immunity is best!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Arcing machine            01/01/70 00:00      
            RF oscillations            01/01/70 00:00      
               School experiment            01/01/70 00:00      
   Ok, we posted in the same minute :)            01/01/70 00:00      
      This time it was Andy and AGAIN same time :)            01/01/70 00:00      
      I'll build in some random delay next time :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
   the solution will be here            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'm puzzled            01/01/70 00:00      
      It damps out the relay voltage spikes?            01/01/70 00:00      
         not much, if any - 33pF?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Should be a printing error.            01/01/70 00:00      
   let's focus            01/01/70 00:00      
      Of course it is possible.            01/01/70 00:00      
      why focus            01/01/70 00:00      
         because......            01/01/70 00:00      
            Part more susceptable to EMI?            01/01/70 00:00      
            'experiment' all you want            01/01/70 00:00      
            prevent problems            01/01/70 00:00      
      where did we not focus?            01/01/70 00:00      
         conclusion            01/01/70 00:00      
            You are a funny guy...            01/01/70 00:00      
               chips is different            01/01/70 00:00      
                  already answered            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That's the definition of "Unreliable"!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  pure unadulterated male cow manure            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The Relay            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The purpose of a Watchdog            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Woof            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Grrr            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Watchdog Hit Report            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Some hints...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The decoupling Cap            01/01/70 00:00      
                        With shortest leads to Vcc and GND pins            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What software,Kai?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Target            01/01/70 00:00      
                           yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Thankyou Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
   isn't it obvious?            01/01/70 00:00      
      No you missed that it is the coil...            01/01/70 00:00      

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