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02/22/07 13:42
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#133499 - pure unadulterated male cow manure
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I already tell that I have been design four PCBs properly.
are they 4 layers with solid ground plane? are the traces to the crystal, the burden caps, the decoupling caps less that 1/4"? Who told you that you "have been design four PCBs properly" or is that just what YOU think?

After install into panel one of them was problem. Why only one? If all PCBs hung maybe my design is not correct.
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what is design as opposed to an amateur circuit?
let us take one aspect:
a design is done this way
an input has a Vih min and a Vih max.
a design guarantees that the high fed to that pin is Vih max + a sizable "noise window".
a design guarantees that the low fed to that pin is Vil min - a sizable "noise window".

an amateur circuit is done this way:
If I connect an output to an input it will work.

Think this one through and you will se that the fact that "Why only one" has absolutely nothing to do with "design is correct"

Erik

List of 51 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
How its happen?            01/01/70 00:00      
   correction            01/01/70 00:00      
   my 2 cents            01/01/70 00:00      
   What is exactly RLY fuction?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Effect of relay            01/01/70 00:00      
         Isn't it called EMI?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sure - radiated and conducted            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ok, thought so :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Maybe it's a test?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not very kind to operator :)            01/01/70 00:00      
         A diode helps.            01/01/70 00:00      
            But immunity is best!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Arcing machine            01/01/70 00:00      
            RF oscillations            01/01/70 00:00      
               School experiment            01/01/70 00:00      
   Ok, we posted in the same minute :)            01/01/70 00:00      
      This time it was Andy and AGAIN same time :)            01/01/70 00:00      
      I'll build in some random delay next time :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
   the solution will be here            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'm puzzled            01/01/70 00:00      
      It damps out the relay voltage spikes?            01/01/70 00:00      
         not much, if any - 33pF?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Should be a printing error.            01/01/70 00:00      
   let's focus            01/01/70 00:00      
      Of course it is possible.            01/01/70 00:00      
      why focus            01/01/70 00:00      
         because......            01/01/70 00:00      
            Part more susceptable to EMI?            01/01/70 00:00      
            'experiment' all you want            01/01/70 00:00      
            prevent problems            01/01/70 00:00      
      where did we not focus?            01/01/70 00:00      
         conclusion            01/01/70 00:00      
            You are a funny guy...            01/01/70 00:00      
               chips is different            01/01/70 00:00      
                  already answered            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That's the definition of "Unreliable"!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  pure unadulterated male cow manure            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The Relay            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The purpose of a Watchdog            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Woof            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Grrr            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Watchdog Hit Report            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Some hints...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The decoupling Cap            01/01/70 00:00      
                        With shortest leads to Vcc and GND pins            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What software,Kai?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Target            01/01/70 00:00      
                           yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Thankyou Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
   isn't it obvious?            01/01/70 00:00      
      No you missed that it is the coil...            01/01/70 00:00      

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