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02/26/07 10:29
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#133705 - how do you know?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Oliver Sedlacek said:
Data hiding is a fundamental aspect of modern programming techniques.


I don't think the OP was asking about modern programming techniques :-)

Oliver said:
When you need to modify a file, it is a real bonus if you know which statements cannot have side effects outside the complation unit.


Sure.

And how do you know that?

It is YOU (i.e. the module's author) who needs to determine which symbols are "safe" (e.g. including it into header file).

Can't YOU simply do the same simply by leaving a comment, which symbols are "safe" and which are not? Doing this neatly at the top of the module source file? What is then the difference, indeed, if you NEVER intend to distribute the module in binary form?

If it is also YOU who will use that module, with a bit of self-discipline you won't make anything dangerous even with exposed all symbols. The same applies to anybody with a bit of literacy...

Without self-discipline, all chances are off, even with "properly" hidden symbols...

JW


PS. Header files as in C are a really flawed concept resulting from the lousy approach to everything by K&R&al. Have a look at Borland's Pascal units.


List of 53 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
lame linker related question            01/01/70 00:00      
   How else will they know?            01/01/70 00:00      
      why the **** not???            01/01/70 00:00      
         I so disagree            01/01/70 00:00      
            Small addition            01/01/70 00:00      
            how do you know?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not the only reason!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Can I throw in another problem here...            01/01/70 00:00      
               it is IS a plain include...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Thanks Jan...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Proper Solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the problem is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     what???            01/01/70 00:00      
                        corrections            01/01/70 00:00      
                           path???? Which path?????            01/01/70 00:00      
                              do you REALLY think that a compiler/linker maker w            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 1 experiment > 3e8h words            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    experiment #2: SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    very hard            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       but it does not matter!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          you suffer from a gross misconception            01/01/70 00:00      
               a common issue            01/01/70 00:00      
      i'm looking for something much simpler....            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well, that's fairly simple ... ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sure.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Contradiction!            01/01/70 00:00      
            not really.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               give an example            01/01/70 00:00      
                  example            01/01/70 00:00      
                     include ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Jon, I didn't know...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I did not build a truck            01/01/70 00:00      
                     no            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Jan, please read my question            01/01/70 00:00      
                           chop it with axe            01/01/70 00:00      
                              chop & glue            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 ok ok ok            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You need to understand            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not quite the right question.            01/01/70 00:00      
   On modular programming            01/01/70 00:00      
      an example, please            01/01/70 00:00      
         \"Lead us not into temptation\"            01/01/70 00:00      
            the temptation is there anyway            01/01/70 00:00      
               Use all the help the tools can give you!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  if there ARE reasons NOT to use the \"tools\"...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Famous last words.            01/01/70 00:00      
               A real life analogy:            01/01/70 00:00      
                  thin ice            01/01/70 00:00      
               Remove the Temptation            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Do you want less temptation?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Thank you            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Cohesion & Coupling            01/01/70 00:00      
         Christoph put it nicely            01/01/70 00:00      

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