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02/26/07 13:52
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#133718 - Remove the Temptation
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jan said:
While it is true that you won't use explicitly a symbol which you won't make public, the temptation is still there for those which you make public, for which you have to set up "rules" (with the same = nil support in both in C and asm) anyway.

For example, you cannot declare a public symbol "read only". Or you cannot distinguish a value from an address in asm (as in mov r0,address vs. mov r0,#address, with an intention to do something with @r0 later).

Isn't programming much of an art of self-control, rather than just churning out lines of - well - code? :-)


If you're working by yourself on small program, and have the mental horsepower to keep everything organized in your head, then I'd say fine -- put everything in one file and live happily ever after.

The problems start when the programmer finds that he can't remember everything any more -- maybe because the program got too big, or maybe because a few months passed, or maybe because there are now two programmers (or three, or ...) working on the same project. At that point (actually before that point!), you need to exercise that self-control that you are talking about and set things up so that they are manageable. In general, that means partitioning the code into modules with narrow and well-defined interfaces, minimizing (eliminating if you can) the use of global variables, etc., etc., etc.

We beat this subject well beyond the point of death a few months ago. Check here for an entry into that thread.

-- Russ


List of 53 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
lame linker related question            01/01/70 00:00      
   How else will they know?            01/01/70 00:00      
      why the **** not???            01/01/70 00:00      
         I so disagree            01/01/70 00:00      
            Small addition            01/01/70 00:00      
            how do you know?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not the only reason!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Can I throw in another problem here...            01/01/70 00:00      
               it is IS a plain include...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Thanks Jan...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Proper Solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the problem is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     what???            01/01/70 00:00      
                        corrections            01/01/70 00:00      
                           path???? Which path?????            01/01/70 00:00      
                              do you REALLY think that a compiler/linker maker w            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 1 experiment > 3e8h words            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    experiment #2: SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    very hard            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       but it does not matter!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          you suffer from a gross misconception            01/01/70 00:00      
               a common issue            01/01/70 00:00      
      i'm looking for something much simpler....            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well, that's fairly simple ... ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sure.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Contradiction!            01/01/70 00:00      
            not really.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               give an example            01/01/70 00:00      
                  example            01/01/70 00:00      
                     include ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Jon, I didn't know...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I did not build a truck            01/01/70 00:00      
                     no            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Jan, please read my question            01/01/70 00:00      
                           chop it with axe            01/01/70 00:00      
                              chop & glue            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 ok ok ok            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You need to understand            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not quite the right question.            01/01/70 00:00      
   On modular programming            01/01/70 00:00      
      an example, please            01/01/70 00:00      
         \"Lead us not into temptation\"            01/01/70 00:00      
            the temptation is there anyway            01/01/70 00:00      
               Use all the help the tools can give you!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  if there ARE reasons NOT to use the \"tools\"...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Famous last words.            01/01/70 00:00      
               A real life analogy:            01/01/70 00:00      
                  thin ice            01/01/70 00:00      
               Remove the Temptation            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Do you want less temptation?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Thank you            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Cohesion & Coupling            01/01/70 00:00      
         Christoph put it nicely            01/01/70 00:00      

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