| ??? 03/29/07 05:18 Modified: 03/29/07 05:21 Read: times Msg Score: -1 -1 Offensive/Flame |
#136071 - You might want to rethink your position Responding to: ???'s previous message |
Mike Stegmaier said:
Richard Erlacher said:
I'd stop, at this point, worrying about boards, until you have a functional circuit. I have made functional circuits before. As it stands, you, Mike, don't know how to design circuits, Yes I do. I made radios, transistor flipflops, and I had a successful 8051 design with just an EEPROM and the 80C51BH on an 18.432 Mhz clock. What? You DESIGNED a radio? What were the functional blocks? A chimp can build a circuit. It's understanding how it works and why it doesn't that "separates man from beast." It's designing a circuit that works that interests us. You DESIGNED a transistor flipflop? Was it a flipflop or a latch? Do you know the difference? From what you've written yourself, there's room for doubt as to whether you actually designed and fabricated a fully functional 80C51BH circuit. Proper design requires adherence to specified limits. You've clearly not done that! You're never going to learn either one until you learn to isolate your faults. and right now, my major issue is getting all the tracks on without the need of many jumpers. I bet anything that me using my wire jumpers that I obtain from cutting resistor and inductor leads in earlier circuits don't conduct electricity well, or have too high of impedance. Clearly, you haven't a clue. Those #20 leads are WAY better conductors than any trace you can build in your kitchen. the less jumpers I have, the easier it is to troubleshoot. about that syntax ... "less" applies to things you can't specifically quantify, like salt on your eggs, while "fewer," which would be the correct word in this case, applies to things you can, like resistor and inductor leads, and, again, from what you've repeatedly said, you don't have equipment suitable for troubleshooting. All you've said you have is equipment suitable for continuity checking. By "easier to troubleshoot," do you mean you don't have to turn the board over as often? You need to learn how to design and construct a circuit that functions properly, that's for sure. That is why I seek advice on each section of my circuit. Then why don't you want to take the advice that's offerred? I am looking for optimal solutions. Remember, I am a hobbyist, not a professional with top-of-the-line equipment. Optimal? You don't know the meaning of the word. Optimal doesn't mean, "What you think you might want." Two things you absolutely need, for sure. A 'scope, and a dictionary. RE |
| Topic | Author | Date |
| would buffering help, or hinder? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Output = Input | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| When in doubt, leave it out ... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| That's the key! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| . | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Expensive jumpers?! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Image, Image, Image | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| LCR | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| i think you are confusing Mike | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| General Statement | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Jumpers are not bad | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| divide and conquer | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| ... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Wire Jumpers | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| You might want to rethink your position | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Advice | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| More contradictions | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Misconceptions | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Optimal? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| point confirmed | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
troubleshoot WHAT | 01/01/70 00:00 |