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07/26/07 13:25
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#142340 - a bit iof emphasis
Responding to: ???'s previous message
there are also modes of failure which you won't cover by a simple "logic" test. For example, leaks might develop across the CMOS structure (increased IDD), FLASH retention might suffer, etc. These might lead to various "soft" failures under e.g. marginal voltage (not only high but also low), low temperature etc.
Jan speak of "'soft' failures" what I want to insert is: what if running at 100C for an hour lead to no failure except that something in a the chip get weakened to the extent that the ability to handle ESD get so low that the chip will, some day, blow at the customers site.

testing a few specimens tells you nothing on reliability on the long run (e.g. in a new batch etc.)
a footnote in the datasheet for the SST39VF1681 states
1. This parameter is measured only for initial qualification and after a design or process change that could affect this parameter.
do you need more to substantiate Jan's point.

there are more factors leading to IC failure than just simply cooking under maximum voltage. Think of chemicals (mainly moisture), mechanical stress (vibrations and shocks), rapid thermal cycling; and all of these have their long-term implications, too.
AND what about the possibility of the chip internally generating a corrosive gas when very hot leading to a lifespan of months instead of eons.


All in all, go ahead and do your thing. But do realize it is marketing, not engineering that you propose.

Erik

List of 25 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Processing capability algorithm            01/01/70 00:00      
   At your computer, within a half an hour?            01/01/70 00:00      
      re: Processing capability algorithm            01/01/70 00:00      
         what is "fails outright"            01/01/70 00:00      
            re: Processing capability algorithm            01/01/70 00:00      
               Idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
               you can't do that            01/01/70 00:00      
               hummm, Oxford...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Look In the Space Program            01/01/70 00:00      
      there are some rad-hard '51's            01/01/70 00:00      
   re: Processing capability algorithm            01/01/70 00:00      
      the value of such test...            01/01/70 00:00      
         a bit iof emphasis            01/01/70 00:00      
            rethinking the value...            01/01/70 00:00      
            ESD, 100C operation, and corrosive gas            01/01/70 00:00      
               not operational burn-in and testing            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Pushing chip limits            01/01/70 00:00      
                     HUH?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Authority vs Certainty            01/01/70 00:00      
                        the misunderstanding squared            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Misunderstanding cubed and baked            01/01/70 00:00      
                              OK I am not much of a chipmaker...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              also, the 100°C was an arbitrary number...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Proving the negative            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    this is the point.            01/01/70 00:00      

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